Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

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Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostMon May 21, 2018 11:07 am

Hi Everyone

First post here so hi to everybody

Understand this is a very asked about question but wanting to upgrade my current computer monitors to something more color accurate for grading in Resolve. Completely understand a broadcast monitor is the way to go but my budget doesn't allow for this and i'm also not grading all of the time. I'm in mind of purchasing the EIZO CG277 Coloredge or keeping my current monitor and using the Atomos sumo 19m as the reference monitor. Most of my work is not for broadcast and mostly used on youtube and Vimeo.

If anybody could give me a steer on if either of those would be a good starting point that would be most appreciated

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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostWed May 23, 2018 5:12 am

Eizo CG277 is quite good and affordable.
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostFri May 25, 2018 1:59 pm

Thanks for the reply

One more question, all of my projects are currently using HD timelines so would my image look pixelated if i bought the CG277 2560 x 1440 when using it as a reference monitor out of Resolve? Or would i be better getting the CG247 1920x1200?

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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostFri May 25, 2018 4:58 pm

It won't look pixelated, but it ill be upscaled to panels native resolution.
With Eizo you should be also able to force image to stay at 1:1 pixel size in the centre of the screen (if you really need 1:1 pixel mapping).
What is nice about CG277 is that it accepts also 4K signals and scales them to its native resolution. Quite useful. I don't think that CG247 can do it.
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostMon May 28, 2018 1:20 am

Their scaling is pretty good, don't worry.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 11:17 am

Just tried CG277 :(
Returning it because of the way it fails to reproduce motion using 25hz (PAL) signal. Maybe other signals too, I didnt try. When panning it is extremely juddery. I can only assume it uses some kind of interpolation to be able to display the PAL video signal. Trying a real production monitor next.
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 12:35 pm

That doesn't sound right. I use a CG247 without any such issues for PAL and I don't expect that they removed those features for CG277. Which input did you use and what was it connected to? Note that you have to configure external monitoring settings in Resolve separately from the timeline settings.
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 12:52 pm

Harri Järvinen wrote:Just tried CG277 :(
Returning it because of the way it fails to reproduce motion using 25hz (PAL) signal. Maybe other signals too, I didnt try. When panning it is extremely juddery. I can only assume it uses some kind of interpolation to be able to display the PAL video signal. Trying a real production monitor next.


It's your workflow issue as Eizo monitors (definitely CG range) support different refresh rates.
Are you feeding it from BM card? Also as mentioned- you have to set monitoring format separately to the timeline.
If you are feeding from GUI preview then this always will be sending 60Hz until you change it manually in GPU setting. Every time you switch fps you would have to change it accordingly, so the best (also for color accuracy) is to get BM card (then monitor changes automatically to what card sends).
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostSun Feb 16, 2020 1:00 pm

Hi,
I'm using CG277 via Decklink card.

With GUI display I dont see judder when looking at panned shots fullscreen @25fps. With CG277 I see much more noticable judder. Have you compared Eizo with more expensive production monitors? What were the results?
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostSun Feb 16, 2020 2:19 pm

Your GUI should be worse as it will most likely work at 60Hz.
Does your monitoring setting follow project fps?
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostTue Feb 18, 2020 11:00 am

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:Your GUI should be worse as it will most likely work at 60Hz.
Does your monitoring setting follow project fps?


Yes.
Also when i try using CG277 as a computer display through displayport, i see a weird tail (lag) when scrolling web pages, such as the BM forum, with stark contrast between font color and background.
It sort of reminds me of tft-displays from the days of yore.
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Re: Monitor - Eizo + Sumo

PostTue Feb 18, 2020 11:05 am

Hmmm...maybe you have a faulty unit.

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