Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

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Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostWed Sep 26, 2018 3:19 pm

Hi!
I'm trying (in Resolve 15.1) to keyframe the Clip Pitch and nothing is happening. If I use Clip Pitch withouth keyframes, no problem, the pitch is shifted. But whenever I use keyframes to gradually move pitch up/down, I see the pitch sliders do their thing but the sound remains unchanged. Am I missing something here? If the keyframes functionality is there in the Inspector, it should work right? Thank you!
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostWed Sep 26, 2018 4:37 pm

Yan Charbonneau wrote:Hi!
I'm trying (in Resolve 15.1) to keyframe the Clip Pitch and nothing is happening. If I use Clip Pitch withouth keyframes, no problem, the pitch is shifted. But whenever I use keyframes to gradually move pitch up/down, I see the pitch sliders do their thing but the sound remains unchanged. Am I missing something here? If the keyframes functionality is there in the Inspector, it should work right? Thank you!


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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostWed Sep 26, 2018 9:20 pm

Ok, signature added below... The project file could be included but I just retested it with a one clip new project and it still doesn't work. What I did :
- Import one clip in a new project
- Go to Fairlight, select clip to have the effect
- In the keyframes section of Clip Pitch (Inspector) I insert a keyframe, go forward 5-10 seconds, insert keyframe again, go forward 5-10 seconds, add a last keyframe. Then I go to the middle keyframe, change Clip Pitch to something like -10 semitones.
- Playback that sequence = no change in sound pitch...

If I just playback the clip without keyframes and change Clip Pitch, it changes the sound pitch. But whenever there is a keyframe somewhere on the clip, whaterver I do manually or by keyframing, no change in pitch. You can try it out if you'd like, it takes 2 minutes. Just to confirm if I'm having some weirdness on my side only or not. Thank you!
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostSun Sep 30, 2018 5:28 pm

Hi again!
Anyone who would just like to try this out for 2 minutes? I'd really like to know if I'm not doing things right or if this is a real bug. Thank you!
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostSun Sep 30, 2018 5:53 pm

Yan Charbonneau wrote:Hi again!
Anyone who would just like to try this out for 2 minutes? I'd really like to know if I'm not doing things right or if this is a real bug. Thank you!


Yan,

I will do my test again tomorrow (and a small GIF). It works well in Fairlight Tab from the inspector + Keyframe panel ... (tested with a 5.1) :)
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostMon Oct 01, 2018 12:30 am

Great thank you!
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostMon Oct 01, 2018 5:22 pm

Yan Charbonneau wrote:Great thank you!


Hello Yan,
( :oops: Yet it worked )

Ok I admit that via the inspector panel it does not work all the time (?)

On the other hand :
Add in the mixer: Effect FairlightFX = Pitch
by engaging Automation => Plugins
Track Header: Select Plugins => Pitch => Semitones
Next: active automation (see image)
Next: On Pitch FairlighfX pannel while playing: move Semitones (mouse.. Panel..)
Stop play: effect done.

You have to get used to Fairlight automations ...Panel AFX and your favorite mouse... :)

(I recommend you read the Fairlight Part Manual and practice)
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Oct 02, 2018 2:56 pm

Thank you very much for your help! Automation will have to do, I guess. It's far from ideal since I want to use this to correct the pitch of the voice of an interviewee when I cut during a sentence. Droping the pitch in a second to have the right natural inflexion could be hard. I'll try your suggestion and see. Thank you!

p.s.: I'll send Blackmagic an email about this Clip Pitch bug for review.
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Oct 02, 2018 3:12 pm

Maybe if you play back in slow motion (e.g., holding down the k and l keys simultaneously) it'll give you time to apply the automation accurately at the right spot. Many DAWs (such as Logic, ProTools, Nuendo, etc.) offer selection-based processing where you can select any portion of a clip and apply effects only to what was selected. Hopefully Fairlight will be able to do that in the future, it's more efficient.
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Oct 02, 2018 3:30 pm

Thank you for the suggestion! Will try. I'm having a bit of trouble now with selecting Pitch in the automation. Seems I can't see the Pitch plugins to select it in the pulldown on the header of the track... Will continue trying! ;)
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Oct 02, 2018 3:53 pm

Yan Charbonneau wrote:Thank you for the suggestion! Will try. I'm having a bit of trouble now with selecting Pitch in the automation. Seems I can't see the Pitch plugins to select it in the pulldown on the header of the track... Will continue trying! ;)


I think you first have to add Pitch to the effects on that track. So, for example, if your audio track is named A1, go to the mixer, look for track A1, and then look for "Effects" near the top, click on that and select Pitch.

Next go up and activate automation, which will then enable a list of buttons across the top of your screen; select Plugins.

Now look over at your track header on the left and you'll see an icon for automation; if you click in that dropdown menu you should now be able to find Pitch.

My suggestion above for using slow motion might help, but just be aware that the pitch will slow down too during slow-motion playback...obviously you'll have to figure out in advance how far you want the pitch to drop or rise at the spot you're trying to fix; you won't be able to do it by ear if you play back in slow-motion!
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Oct 02, 2018 4:34 pm

Hello Yan,

If you do not have the shaking hand and a good brushstroke with the mouse: you want to try to draw the pitch manually ... :)

automation_pitch_manual_with_mouse.jpg


By sure you enable Trim automation VS Write automation if is a Append automation :)
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostThu Oct 04, 2018 12:43 pm

Thanks again for the help! And I did find the draw tool which is great! Also, I contacted Blackmagic and they tested the Clip Pitch keyframing issue and it is indeed a real bug and will be fixed in a next release. Have a nice day!

p.s.: yep, I was adding the Pitch effect to a cut clip and not to the whole track, which caused that I couldn't select "semitones" in the track header. Now it works!
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostSun Nov 11, 2018 11:33 pm

same issue here on Resolve Studio 15. Inspector says clip pitch, but when enabled and altered has no effect on pitch of the audio clip.. same unexpected behaviour in edit window as in fairlight window when using inspector. just stays on one pitch, rather than changing between key frames.

Tried recording automation, but that doesn't appear to work either. clicked the automation curve icon on the pitch plugin for my desired audio track, pressed play and altered the pitch settings, but it doesn't get recorded. Also tried drawing pitch changes, but can't find a way of getting a smooth curve, only step changes, which is really not what I need..
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Dec 18, 2018 7:53 am

Yan Charbonneau wrote:...will be fixed in a next release...

Not yet :(
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostThu Mar 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Seems the bug is still there with 15.3... In hoping this gets fixed in a soon to be released patch? Don't want to be annoying with this, just hoping it moves along soon. Thank you dev team! ;)
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 7:41 pm

Experienced this bug today. Apparently still around in 16b4
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostTue Jul 30, 2019 6:00 am

Kyle R Lancaster wrote:Experienced this bug today. Apparently still around in 16b4

Yeah! Same here! Using other software to do this, unfortunately.
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 9:13 pm

My Inspector window doesn't apply pitch changes or any changes... eq... clip volume... any changes I make from he inspector window itself don't get applied. Am I doing something wrong or is this part of the bug ya'll are experiencing?

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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostThu Oct 03, 2019 11:55 am

[quote="Yan Charbonneau"] will be fixed in a next release.

Still present in v16.1.0B.033.

A shame because, as a video guy, I'm really not au fait with the intricacies of DAW automation.
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostThu Oct 03, 2019 12:07 pm

Jean Claude wrote:Hello Yan,

If you do not have the shaking hand and a good brushstroke with the mouse: you want to try to draw the pitch manually ... :)

automation_pitch_manual_with_mouse.jpg



Is there any reason I can't see the attachment?
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostThu Oct 03, 2019 4:58 pm

philtimm wrote:
Jean Claude wrote:Hello Yan,

If you do not have the shaking hand and a good brushstroke with the mouse: you want to try to draw the pitch manually ... :)

automation_pitch_manual_with_mouse.jpg



Is there any reason I can't see the attachment?


Sorry: delete attachment due to a handling error :oops:
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostWed Dec 11, 2019 4:26 pm

Still not working.. anybody fount way around? I want to use keyframing so my slow motion slips has a nice audio effect when slowing down (you can create cuts in audio tracks and apply effect only to parts you want, but the nice sound effect is actually the gradual change). Any help appreciated! :idea:
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostThu Jan 23, 2020 10:32 am

Hi, (first post)

I can't get this to work with the inspector in Studio 16.1.2.026.
But hey, I'm an old time adobe user and just made the switch recently so maybe I'm missing something.

The user manual is a good but hefty read.
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Re: Keyframing Clip Pitch in audio not working?

PostSat Jan 25, 2020 1:44 am

Still not working and I'm using the latest release :(
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