J Teck wrote:Mike Nagel wrote:What is your connection to both screens (HDMI|SDI|etc) and what is the resolution of each screen ? Are u doing HD or UHD ?
Hi,
HD only and HDMI, do not have the budget yet for a SDI screen...
best approach: get 2x eeColor LUT boxes - one for the grading screen and one for the client TV. calibrate both to same target, e.g. Rec 709 G2.4.
This will ultimately be cheaper for you than buying more expensive screens and a much, much better calibration.
With the eeColor you can get either screen to be very, very accurate - and therefore also match each other as good as possible - minus display technology differences (e.g. LCD vs. Plasma). eeColor uses 65^3 LUTs - highest LUT resolution available on the market, and also the cheapest LUT box there is. And, displayCal/Argyll supports it, hence u can export that LUT format.
Note: the LUT box can't fix uniformity issues. On lower end (--> cheaper) screens this will be a factor, but there is no way around it. Even better entry level screens like the HP Dreamcolor, Eizos, NECs do have uniformity issues.
Also, the ee box has 6 LUT slots. Technically speaking u could store a cLUT (calibration LUT) for the ref screen and the client screen and then switch between them, so u could get away with one LUT box, but then u can't run them simultaneously. Another reason why this is very useful is for storing multiple calibration targets, e.g.:
Rec 709
G2.2 100 nits, Rec
G2.4 100 nits, Rec 709
G2.2 120 nits, Rec G2.4 120 nits, Rec 709 G2.2
max nits the screen can do, etc (depending on what the client wants and/or what the desired standard is - this is very useful)
Note: eeColor is EOL, supply lasts until stock runs out. Re durability: been running multiple boxes for the last 8 years, zero issues.
Another approach: use Resolve's built-in viewer LUT to cal one screen. This would contaminate the signal, hence u can then only use one screen (calibrated), but not the client monitor and/or external scopes simultaneously. Not suitable for your setup.
Another approach: buy a grading screen that has built-in LUT storage (Eizo CG models, some NEC).
Pro: u would not need a LUT box for that screen, only for the client TV.
Cons:
(a) these screen are more expensive (u end paying more than a cheaper screen with a ee),
(b) calibration will in not be as good as with ee (we've done extensive tests) - ee has higher LUT resolution and the ee's LUT processing is cleaner than that of Eizo or NEC, meaning the actual LUT calibration calculated by displayCal/Argyll or Lightspace is more accurate (when implemented)
(c) u have to be very careful which calibration software supports that particular LUT format for that screen. There are some NEC screens advertised to have 3D LUT support but then no Pro calibration software supports that screen, so u cannot create and upload a professional LUT - useless.
eeColor format is supported by displayCal/Argyll, Lightspace and Calman.
next point: do NEVER ever use the cal software that comes with a screen, use a professional calibration solution like the three mentioned above. It seem u're using displayCal/Argyll, which is free and will work very nicely.
So, if u're
grading in HD, only thing u need is eeColor, 1 HD 1920x1080 ref screen, 1 HD 1920x1080 client TV. Although u can use ref screens that have a higher than 1920x1080 resolution, since u're Resolve timeline will be outputting HD it will simply window the screen - hence u don't need more than 1920x1080 resolution.
displayCal is free and u have the i1D3 already. This is the cheapest setup with best results (for this configuration in the entry level price range).
Future add-ons:
(1) get a spectro to create ref offsets for the i1D3
(2) get a ref screen that has the least amount of uniformity issues - that will be very tricky in the entry level range, high-end pro OLEDs like the FSI have very good uniformity but cost much, much more.
Hope this helps.
- M