Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

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Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostFri Dec 14, 2018 3:03 pm

Hi,

Sapphire OFX plugins (11.x or 12.x) are not longer usable in DR 15.x.

No keyframing possible anymore, woking with windows also broken (no soft mask possible anymore - the edge always hard) and the overall performance is absolute bad. All that was working fine in DR 12/14.x.

I spoke with the guys at Boris FX but they can't reproduce the problem (which I can hardly believe).

Has anyone had the same experience?

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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostSun Dec 16, 2018 11:42 am

Keyframing with OFX is kind of a work in progress at the moment. I have used some Sapphire and BorisFX plug-ins recently, but it was usually an "all or nothing" thing. I noticed the other day that one of them had a problem confining the effect to a window, but because of a time crunch I wound up throwing it out and trying something different, which solved the problem.

I'll see if I can investigate this.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostMon Dec 17, 2018 7:36 am

Marc Wielage wrote:Keyframing with OFX is kind of a work in progress at the moment.

Yes, i think so, but why the Boris-guys can't reproduce the problems?! I talk to them since 2 months, send theme screen capture a.e. but nothing happened except the statement from Boris: "... actually under subscription no support included". Serious? I missing Genarts.

The only workaround for the moment is to use the plugins in the fusionpage. There it works (but extreme slow and not stable). In Fusion 9.x it works fine at all.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostMon Dec 17, 2018 8:15 am

I am using Sapphire in my current show with some degree of success. Keyframing is working for me. Not sure about the masks though as I don't use that feature much.

I did find a weird but where transitions don't render properly on machines with multiple GFX cards and the support people basically told me that they are not surprised this was a bug and that I should just use less GFX cards. . . . . so yeah I am with you on not being totally happy with the Boris support.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostMon Dec 17, 2018 8:58 am

Nathan Morgan wrote:Keyframing is working for me.

Seriously, in the color page? Curious. I can't keyframing in the keyframe editor neither in the OFX inspector. As soon as i turn on keyframing all parameters not editable anymore (frozen).

We cleaninstall DR 15.x and Sapphire 12 (also go back to Sapphire 11 just for testing) without succsess. The only way for us is go back to DR14 and all works fine.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostFri Dec 21, 2018 11:52 am

The current Sapphire plug-ins are working for me both in Edit or on a Color node and I can animate them. Mocha, which doesn't work as an OFX plug-in, can be used for tracked masks too in Saphire.

But they are awfully slow with my AMD GPU, using the GPU around 25%, but the CPUs are nearly at 100%. Unfortunately, Sapphire 2019 isn't really good for Mac users, other than those with a Hackintosh or beefed-up 'cheesegrater' with Nvidia cards. And the HUD, like adjusting the corner pin directly in the viewer, doesn't always work (some effects do). That's known behavior with Resolve.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostMon Dec 24, 2018 9:28 am

I had contact with Linh from Boris Support. They have reproduced the keyframe & mask issues now and working on a fix.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostMon Dec 24, 2018 1:44 pm

Dany Evans wrote:I had contact with Linh from Boris Support. They have reproduced the keyframe & mask issues now and working on a fix.

Ah, that is good news. Keep us posted on what they say.

I have been able to fade-in and fade-out Sapphire and Boris plug-ins by cheating and using a layer mixer, but it's extra work and is annoying.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostTue Dec 25, 2018 2:07 am

Maybe we can try and report which ones work and which don't?

I can confirm that Mocha masks have no effect on the AutoTrackFlare. Which ones don work for you?
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostFri Jan 11, 2019 3:47 pm

Linh from BorisFx says, it's a host bug and not a plugin issue. They talk with BMD to solve that. So i hope, in the next version this annoying problem will be fixed.
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Re: Sapphire plugins broken in DR 15.x

PostFri Jan 25, 2019 4:07 pm

We have done some quick tests. The keyframe issue in DR 15.2.3 is fixed, but the mask is still a problem.

Btw: it would be great to see the OFX keyframes in a "window" like in the edit page for better overview and handling (like in previous versions).
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