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Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:28 am
by Dwaine Maggart
I'll post this here, even though no one will read it. Maybe someone will stumble across it with a search.

In the new Windows 10 version 1809 update, Microsoft has made changes in the font area.

In the past, when you installed .ttf fonts. it required Admin privileges and installed the font for all users.

In 1809, you can install .ttf fonts for the local user without Admin privileges. That sounds nice, but if you do that, the font won't show up in the Resolve Text+ font list. It will be in the Text font list.

With 1809, if you install a font, when you right click on the .ttf file, you have a new menu called "Install For All Users". It requires Admin level privileges. And you have the old Install menu. If you want the font to be available in the Resolve Text+ font list, use the "Install For All Users" menu.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:32 am
by Seth Goldin
Thanks for the heads up!

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:54 am
by Andy Mees
Thanks Dwaine
I upgraded one of our systems to 1809 recently, so this is very good to know.
Cheers
Andy

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:21 am
by TYKHAN
Thank you Dwaine Maggart,
Very useful tip. :)
Now I know where my fonts are gone.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:00 pm
by Nate Porter
Thanks for the update

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:57 pm
by Jean Claude
Good to know. Thank you Dwaine :)

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:32 pm
by Jim Simon
Very helpful. Thanks Dwaine.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:54 am
by Chip.Murphy
You're the man, Dwaine!

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:38 pm
by Steve Alexander
Nice one, Dwaine! Thanks

And you thought no one would read your post!

Happy New Year

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:08 am
by cachecow
Thanks!!

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Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:36 pm
by John Richard
Great heads up Dwaine!
And thanks for all the support you provide here on the forum as well.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:33 am
by cachecow
is that why maybe 5 out of every 20 fonts work that are in my list?

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:15 am
by dariobigi
Dwaine, you’re the George Bailey of Black Magic Design.


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Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:00 pm
by thegraal
Amazing! Gonna try this now.

EDIT: It solved my issue. So happy! <3

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:35 pm
by aerofart
Thanks for the information.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:44 pm
by Steve S.
Help! I only have 5 fonts available for Text+. I have tried reinstalling all the fonts on my system using the "right click Install for all" mentioned above but it doesn't seem to help. Restarted Resolve. Restarted computer. Tried downloading and installing fonts. Nothing seems to work. They appear in the normal text app.
Font path: C:\Windows.old\WINDOWS\Fonts
Windows 10
Ryzen 5 Build
Resolve 15.2.3 (free)
Any help is really appreciated!

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am
by Dwaine Maggart
That seems like an odd location for the fonts. They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:30 pm
by Steve S.
Dwaine Maggart wrote:That seems like an odd location for the fonts. They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts


Well somehow they are in both. For the record, I didn't change anything so these must be the system defaults. But these fonts won't give me the "Install For All Users" install option. Not sure what to do. Attached a image.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:02 pm
by Dwaine Maggart
What version of Windows 10 are you using?

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:12 pm
by Steve S.
Win 10 Home, V. 1809, Build 17763.316

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:08 pm
by Dwaine Maggart
Regarding your previous post, the right click option to Install For All Users is for when you are installing a new .ttf font file. It's not for fonts that are already installed.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:16 pm
by Dwaine Maggart
That said, this whole thread is about installing NEW font files on version 1809.

Font's that were already on the system previous to the 1809 version were already available to all users and should be visible in Text+.

Can you confirm that the fonts you are not seeing in Text+ were installed before or after you were running version 1809?

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:12 pm
by Steve S.
Both. I reinstalled the fonts that were not showing up and they still didn't show. I tried installing new fonts and they don't show. The new fonts show up in other programs, as do the rest of them.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:19 am
by jp_agner
Steve S. wrote:
Dwaine Maggart wrote:They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both.


Don't use Explorer to see where the fonts are. Use some 3rd party file manager, like Total Commander. Explorer automatically shows you all of the installed fonts instead of real C:\Windows\Fonts folder contents. So, use something like Total Commander to see if your fonts are actually there. If they're not, just copy them there using the same 3rd party file manager. Helped me.

P.S. Total Commander hides some system folders, including 'Fonts'. You need to make them visible by activating 'show hidden files' option in Total Commander.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:35 pm
by Steve S.
jp_agner wrote:
Steve S. wrote:
Dwaine Maggart wrote:They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both.


Don't use Explorer to see where the fonts are. Use some 3rd party file manager, like Total Commander. Explorer automatically shows you all of the installed fonts instead of real C:\Windows\Fonts folder contents. So, use something like Total Commander to see if your fonts are actually there. If they're not, just copy them there using the same 3rd party file manager. Helped me.


Thank you everyone for the help. But it just keep getting weirder. I installed TC only to find that the Fonts folder doesn't even show up. It still shows up the same in Explorer (pic attached). So the folder even really there? I'm so very confused. I tried making a new Fonts folder in C\Windows but it just deletes the folder after I enter the name.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:23 pm
by jp_agner
Steve S. wrote:I installed TC only to find that the Fonts folder doesn't even show up.

TC hides some system folders. You need to make them visible. Configuration - Options - Display.
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I just added a button to the toolbar. Alternatively, you can just use cm_SwitchHidSys command in the field at the bottom of TC window to make hidden files and folders visible:
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Or just use cd Fonts command (while in Windows\ folder) to go straight into the Fonts folder:
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Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 pm
by Steve S.
WOW! I can't believe this. On a whim I updated to 15.2.4 and now the fonts are showing up. Guess it has some sort of patch for the issue. Or something I did earlier took affect. Either way sorry for all the trouble and thanks for hanging in there with me. Hope this helps someone else!

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:16 am
by Li Chenghan
Dwaine Maggart wrote:That said, this whole thread is about installing NEW font files on version 1809.

Font's that were already on the system previous to the 1809 version were already available to all users and should be visible in Text+.

Can you confirm that the fonts you are not seeing in Text+ were installed before or after you were running version 1809?



I hope you can increase your support for Traditional Chinese.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:46 pm
by Jeremy Hollobon
It's June 2019, and this post saved my bacon - thanks, all.

Incidentally, if the "Install for all Users" menu item isn't showing up (as per the earlier screen shot) it's probably because the font file is already in a font directory (in which Windows will display font groups, not individual font files). So just install from some other directory.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:23 pm
by R. Baris Ferah
This is just too exhausting. I mean I need to close and reopen DaVinci Resolve everytime I need to add new fonts. When Resolve was just an Color/Edit software it was acceptable but now it has Fusion in it. Sometimes when I am working on motion graphics I need to try different fonts and usually I like to control this fonts with an additional software like FontBase or NexusFont. Because if I load too much font to my system without managing them my font list goes crazy. It becomes a list that goes to infinity and beyond. I don't want that, no one want that.

And Windows' Font managing system is also terrible, there is no categorizing or folder options. After a while I lose the track if I rely on it. Therefore an additional software is required to deal with this situation. However, like I addressed this issue about a year ago;

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=77144

Resolve's backend is incompatible with these applications. And the weird thing is that while you can see and use the fonts that installed with these application with simple "Text" Effect, you can't use them with "Text+" or inside Fusion. This is just crazy. This actually means that whatever code blocks that developers use for Text, they use completely different code block for Text+ and Fusion. I know this is a free software (at least I'm using the free version), also this is a very simple issue to fix. Just use in Fusion and Text+ whatever you used in Text.

I know Text+ is heavily depending on Fusion software but it shouldn't be that hard to add this functionality. We are in 2019. Word does it, Adobe Suite does it and this might hurt your feelings but I'm going to say it anyway.. even Notepad does it. Notepad...

In addition to them I'm really grateful that you share this beautiful software with world for free. And you actually making an amazing job so far, I need to give you that. But this is a very annoying issue. Try to picture this problem like this. You are a F1 Pilot and whenever you need to go in Pit Stop there would be no pit crew and you need to stop your engine, then get out of your vehicle, put some gas in it, change your tires yourself then get in your vehicle and continue to race like through this workflow. It sounds really inefficient, right?

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:37 pm
by darrenracer
Hi Everyone,
I'm on Windows 10 version 1903 - I'm having a hard time solving this problem on showing available fonts in Resolve 16 Studio. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:32 am
by darrenracer
Can someone please reply from BM - if it's impossible to fix for Windows 10 then please at least let me know. Just going dark is not the answer.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:01 pm
by Jim Simon
darrenracer wrote:I'm having a hard time showing available fonts in Resolve 16 Studio.


What exactly is the problem?

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:49 pm
by darrenracer
The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:56 pm
by Michael_Andreas
When these fonts were installed, were they done by an account with administrator privileges and made available to all users? If you're not sure, maybe try de-installing and re-installing as an Admin.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:20 pm
by darrenracer
The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:03 pm
by Michael_Andreas
According to the DR manual, Fusion can have issues with fonts handled by 3rd-party font managers. Nothing about the rest of DR having issues. So since Fusion is cobbled into DR that part must be handled separately.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:14 pm
by Jim Simon
darrenracer wrote:The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.


This is exactly the symptom described by Wayne in the original post, which also provides the solution.

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:37 pm
by Badr Asi
Thank you.