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individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:10 pm
by Jeff Brass
Hi all, Happy New Year.

I have to render out a few hundred clips, each needs to keep its original clip name - no probs doing that with deliver individual clips.

however - I also need each clip to have its edited/modified audio - which of course isn't an option using the individual method.

Any ideas of how best to tackle this?

cheers
J

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:24 pm
by Jim Simon
I don't think you can.

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:44 pm
by Peter Benson
No RENDER Page output involving Render Individual Clips with "Timeline Audio"?

#WowJustWOW! Here's hoping you're *wrong* Jim.
[Re]Pete

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:58 pm
by Vit Reiter
Maybe I don't understand well.
Why can't you export individual clips after editing? Each clip on the timeline will be routinely exported.

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:24 pm
by Peter Benson
Vit Reiter wrote:Maybe I don't understand well.
Why can't you export individual clips after editing? Each clip on the timeline will be routinely exported.
You must factor in both aspects of the OP's stated concern/question: that of exporting individual clips -- but along with the associated segment of edited/processed/mixed Timeline [i e., "Record"] Audio.

That's what many of us editors need as an option upon rendering.
[Re]Pete

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:30 pm
by Vit Reiter
If you have separately audio and video files, You have to link them.
Then You can use Individual clips export.

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:23 pm
by xunile
If you right click a clip in the clip timeline of the Render tab, you can choose "Render this clip", which should keep any edits and allow you to name it whatever you want.

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:41 pm
by Jeff Brass
yes, I can do it clip by clip - which is what I did. all 400 hundred of them, each manually renamed. took flipping hours, then of course the time to find the 2 that didn't render etc etc etc


xunile wrote:If you right click a clip in the clip timeline of the Render tab, you can choose "Render this clip", which should keep any edits and allow you to name it whatever you want.


yep, right click etc type in reel name/file name etc etc....that is fine for a few clips only, but 400? that's a hell of a lot of mouse and keyboard work. not to mention the introduced potential for manually naming a wrong key/number. And a seriously slow workflow.

I can't believe we have been asking for render individual clips with timeline audio for a few years now -

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:35 pm
by Peter Cave
I can't recall seeing this requested feature in any other professional editing software.
It's worth keeping in mind that Render Individual Clips is intended ONLY for round-trip workflows.

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:53 pm
by Jeff Brass
Peter Cave wrote:I can't recall seeing this requested feature in any other professional editing software.
It's worth keeping in mind that Render Individual Clips is intended ONLY for round-trip workflows.


Hi Peter, thanks for your comments.
Yeah I totally get that its designed for round tripping. However, its so close to being a valuable tool for other purposes too.

With that in mind, can you tell me an effective way to currently bring in 400 clips, apply some audio processing then render each clip as individual clips with the edited audio and existing file names?
I spent many hours doing this manually and its something we will have to do from time to time.

One of the things I enjoy with DR is the workflow speed increase with edit/grade/audio etc all in one - but this task was extremely slow, tedious and open to mistakes. and yeah I made a couple of typos once my eyes/brain started to glaze over which then added more time in finding and correcting the mistakes.

And its been talked/asked about a number of times in DR forum..as for other professional editing software - I don't use any other, and I don't frequent their forums so I have no idea what other NLE's do or can do in this respect.

I'd hope that just because others don't do it, it doesn't mean BMD won't look at it as a potential feature upgrade.

thanks

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:07 am
by Vit Reiter
Jeff,

maybe I still do not understand what you need to do? (this is because I do not know English well)

If you need to export each clip in a timeline with a specific name (eg file name / clip name), use the variable values in the Name fields on the Delivery page.

Type " % " to the Filename or Custom name (it doesn't matter) and choose any values from the contextual menu.


I'm sorry if I still do not understand what you're looking for ;)

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:35 am
by Jeff Brass
Vit Reiter wrote:Jeff,

maybe I still do not understand what you need to do? (this is because I do not know English well)

If you need to export each clip in a timeline with a specific name (eg file name / clip name), use the variable values in the Name fields on the Delivery page.

Type " % " to the Filename or Custom name (it doesn't matter) and choose any values from the contextual menu.


I'm sorry if I still do not understand what you're looking for ;)


Thanks Vit

ah...I missed the % - that would have made it easier, thanks for that. - still, I don't feel this should be needed as a simple "render TL audio" will still save a lot of time rather then manually queuing up 400 clips

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:59 am
by Peter Cave
Hi Jeff,

I work with Avid, FCPX, FCP7, Premiere & Resolve. None of those programs will do what you are asking. I have never seen ANY software capable of this. However, I agree it would be a useful option. There would have to be some serious audio options for routing tracks when the track count gets too high!

Re: individual clips and audio

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:18 pm
by Jim Simon
Jeff Brass wrote:an effective way to currently bring in 400 clips, apply some audio processing then render each clip as individual clips with the edited audio and existing file names?


That's an unusual work flow. Most times audio isn't 'processed' until after editing. That may be why the feature you want doesn't yet exist.

You could try using something like Adobe Audition or possibly Audacity to work on the individual clips.