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Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:44 pm
by AbdoulUK
Hi all,
Apologies if this repeat question shows up, I did ask before my profile was verified but looks like it's been lost in the process.

Does anyone know if there is an easy way to sync audio to raw BM clips inside davicni resolve without timecode? I know there are ways mentioned in the manual and even from a quick search on here, but what Im looking for is a method which replaces the audio in the raw files and updates the media pool so each clip is now self contained with replaced audio (like plural eyes does).

I ask because this is literally the only thing stopping me editing my projects in Davinci, and instead edit in Premiere and then just round trip to davinci for grading then back out again. Is plural eyes my only option for self contained clips with replaced audio?

Thanks

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:40 pm
by Michael_Andreas
The Create Multicam Clip dialog gives the option to sync by audio, and has worked well for me given that I would slate with hand claps. The replacement of the audio track is not included but Resolve provides other options for audio selection.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:53 pm
by depiqd_alex
I've had issues getting Plural Eyes and Resolve to work well together. The XML from Plural Eyes and the way Davinci Resolve sees it is not working correctly. I hope that someone can prove me wrong on that.

In the meantime, I've been using Syncalia. It's not as UI friendly as PE but it works with Resolve flawlessly.

Hope that helps.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:36 pm
by Frank Engel
You don't need an external program for this.

https://filmora.wondershare.com/davinci ... solve.html

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:06 am
by Joshua_G
Indeed, multicam syncing and editing can be made from within Resolve, there is no need for any plugin or external software.
Read chapter 25, "Multicam Editing", on DaVinci Resolve Reference Manual, page 513 on the DaVinci Resolve 15.3 Reference Manual.
Also, watch the (non-official) tutorial videos on the following links:


The first link is for Resolve 12 and the second for Resolve 14. The principles of multicam editing haven't changed between versions, though there are some minor changes in some sub-menus that one can find out by reading the relevant DaVinci Resolve manual, or by some experiments.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:42 am
by Uli Plank
As long as syncing by TC there is no problem. But syncing by audio works far better in PluralEyes.

Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:01 am
by Glenn Venghaus
I am a total Resolve fanboy , but have never trusted my non TC audio to Resolve. Never worked.
PluralEyes rules on that front and dead simple.
Used it for the last 4+ years on every version of resolve (in standalone mode, the n create a premiere xml en import that incl media in resolve)

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:27 am
by Reynaud Venter
Syncaila is preferred to Plural Eyes: https://syncaila.com

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:30 am
by Glenn Venghaus
Aparantly syncalia does not do so well on very long clips as does pluraleyes with it unique drift compansation, but both are excellent tools for your audio toolbox.
Recommend to try both and see which better suits your workflow / material.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:24 pm
by Drakulica
Video why is Syncaila only solution for DaVinci Resolve users. (and better than Pluraleyes)


Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:37 pm
by Glenn Venghaus
Drakulica wrote:Video why is Syncaila only solution for DaVinci Resolve users. (and better than Pluraleyes)



Tnx for the link although most users here do not speak this language so less usefull than it could have been.
Also qualifications like better or worse depends on your workflow and usage case. Also the video shows an old version of Pluraleyes, which , while still good and had zero issues with it in the past , has been superseeded by a newer version long time ago.

The workflow demonstrated, using a timeline export / import with Davinci resolve works indeed better in Syncalia.
For standalone workflows or dailies sync , i have never had a single issue with Pluraleyes and have been using it for the last several years with all versions of Davinci Resolve since 12.5.
I can trow multiple cams, audios etc on Pluraleyes and it syncs flawless. Its is not for noting a very popular tool

Where pluraleyes shines is for very long clips sync (more typical for standalone clips/dailies sync), where it uses smart drift compensation to keep the audio in sync over very long clips (within limits )
I have not seen this feature in Syncalia (yet)

So again it depends on your workflow which program suits you better. "This program is better than that program" you should typicaly avoid (lessens the value of your posts) and just let users decide for themselves based on info available and your/others experiences you describe.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:24 pm
by JoshuaBrown
Syncalia is the only alternative I found that works if you're dealing with a lot of clips. The built in syncing is awful and can't sync at least half while syncalia gets them right every time. The biggest problem though is with multicamming. You have to import the xml back into Resolve then paste it inside of a multicam sequence that you already created. An annoying extra step.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:10 pm
by antoine
Hi,
If you're working with .BRAW files then there's a trick to import them in Red Giant Shooter PluralEyes, check out our link : https://autokroma.com/blog/Importing-BRAW-Plural-Eyes-Premiere-Pro/.

Then you can export the .XML and import it into PPro and work with .BRAW directly in Premiere Pro with our plugin BRAW Studio (Windows and Mac OSX) https://autokroma.com/BRAW_Studio/

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:52 pm
by Drakulica
JoshuaBrown wrote:Syncalia is the only alternative I found that works if you're dealing with a lot of clips. The built in syncing is awful and can't sync at least half while syncalia gets them right every time. The biggest problem though is with multicamming. You have to import the xml back into Resolve then paste it inside of a multicam sequence that you already created. An annoying extra step.


I agree with you. Generaly I dont like how multicam work in DaVinci Resolve. The best multicam workflow is in Edius. So simple and powerful. I thing the only solution is that blackmagic create new tab like CUT tab just for multicam.

Re: Plural eyes alternative

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:17 pm
by Sam Steti
Hey,

Didn't have the opportunity to deeply watch the demo video, but I can tell I've eaten tons of multicam since FCP, and here in Resolve, the WF made of creating any multicam ISO that you empty and replace its contents (open in TL) by synced stacked tracks coming from PE is rock solid with a lot of clips too...