VioletWolf wrote:Source of the information above: (Starts at 1:14:20)
Worth watching till the end.
VioletWolf wrote:.
Blackmagic official statements on the Cut Page: (paraphrased)
"We created the Cut Page as a place to try new ideas and play with them without messing up the Edit Page for users".
As we move forward, and with input from users, we can foresee features from the Cut Page moving into the Edit Page and the other direction as well".
Great find! I actually watched that video before but didn't take note of him saying that. I'm fine with the Cut page existing as a page where BMD experiments with features. However, ones that can be added to the Edit page without any problem like Clip View and Source Tape should be brought over before Resolve 16 is finalized. I would say the same applies to the in-viewer crop and transform features.
However, another thing that hear Grant say multiple times was that they're having some trouble finalizing the Cut page and that it's only half finished. That feels kind of obvious given the existence of things like the Effects and Titles panels existing without any controls for them. I think the reason they're having trouble is because the scope of the Cut page is too specific.
The Cut page assumes a certain timeline length. Others have already pointed out that the mini-timeline might not really be useable past a certain timeline length, but what if it's only 30 seconds to a minute? If you were editing that in the Edit page, you can set your zoom range to some place comfortable and still have very little need to scroll. In the Cut page, you could conceivably edit that using only the mini-timeline. In that scenario, the existence of an ever-present mini-timeline and fixed-zoomed-in timeline might be considered a waste of space more than a time saver. In this sense, the Cut page has a minimum and maximum length that it really excels at.
The Cut page assumes one audio track for every video track so if you're dragging in clips that have multiple tracks, then the Cut timeline is invisibly overwrites audio tracks. So the Cut page can only quickly put together timelines with only one audio track for each video track. Otherwise whatever gains you may get from throwing stuff together in the Cut page might be undone when you need to clean it up in the Edit page.
I feel like adding Effects and Titles is outside the Cut page's scope because all these things have potential to slow down playback speed enough to impact edit speed. They feel more like finishing touches.
So what it they add the Inspector so you can change Effect and Title settings? What if they added the ability to collapse the mini-timeline? What if they added the ability to set the zoom of the large timeline? What it they exposed what's happening with your clip audio tracks? Don't all of these things make significant steps towards making the Clip page work like the Edit page anyway?
Even if they want the Cut page so they can experiment with new features, software is more malleable than that. You don't have to make such big divisions like putting it into another page.
The Clip page's timeline could be implemented as a kind of audio-blind view to the Edit page's timeline, it's click and drag behavior could be allocated to a Smart Edit tool, and both would enable an intelligent placement of audio tracks. Users can then opt of these features simply by not using them.
VioletWolf wrote:"We really look forward to having these conversations with our users".
Patience
That's kind of what I'm trying to do lol The issue is that I have no idea if Blackmagic has even seen this topic so I don't know if this conversation is getting to them. The best we can hope to do is express our opinions, have these conversation among other users, keep these discussions alive, and hope that Blackmagic sees them.
However, in order to be of any use to Blackmagic as feedback, people need to do more than just repeat what BMD's goals were for these features and instead bring up the specific benefits and drawbacks that we see.
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:01 pm