Hardware question (CPU, GPU, Monitor)

I apologize if this question ends up in the wrong place, but I am about to invest heavily in a computer and a grading monitor that would work great with Davinci Resolve. I want to purchase the Eizo ColorEgde CG319X (31 inch, 4096x2160 resolution) and a PNY Quadro P5000 16 GB Graphics Card and a AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX CPU.

I want to be able to perform color grading on video in 10 bit color (important) and hope that this setup will work well.

Does anyone have any experiences with these particular Components or any feedback on how you think they would perform with Davinci Resolve?

I would GREATLY appreciate your feedback, since I am about to invest really soon and I don't want to make a big mistake!

Thanks in advance!
Michael Nilsson, Sweden

P5000 is pretty slow with resolve. (are you buying it second hand for a very low price?)
2990WX is often overkill.

What kind of source material do you want to edit/grade?

I am about to invest heavily in a computer and a grading monitor that would work great with Davinci Resolve.

Hi.

Your CPU are only using around 14 to 16 cores 28 to 32 threads when working in Resolve.
That together with the odd memory configuration of the Threadripper 2970WX and 2990WX CPU's makes normally the 2950X a much better choice for Resolve.

In Resolve is all the Image processing including grading done in the GPU, and it's done in FP32.

The way to connect it to a grading monitor is to use a Black Magic DeckLink playback card. Here is a link:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/decklink

Regardes Carsten.

P5000 is pretty slow with resolve. (are you buying it second hand for a very low price?)
2990WX is often overkill.

What kind of source material do you want to edit/grade?

Thanks for your reply! I'm glad I asked around here, I thought the Quadro would be good for this purpose, I must look around more then... I was thinking of buying a brand new Quadro... I am going to grade 4K footage filmed with GH5 through an Atomos recorder as well as h265-files in 4K from Mavic 2 Pro for starters... I want to have a machine than works well with 10 bit video...

What would You recommend me getting in terms of hardware (GPU and CPU)...?

Best Regards, Michael Sweden.

In Resolve is all the Image processing including grading done in the GPU, and it's done in FP32. The way to connect it to a grading monitor is to use a Black Magic DeckLink playback card.

Thank You for your reply!

Forgive my ignorance, but is that Black Magic Decklink card all I need to grade video with resolve? I don't need an expensive GPU then...?

And do You have any thoughts on the Eizo ColorEdge CG319X...? Is that a good monitor you would recommend or are there others You would recommend more...?

Best regards Michael Sweden.

Those are not codecs that need a super fast workstation.

When do you need your workstation?
Computex starts 27 may 2019 and some important announcements will be made.

For displaying 10 bit color during color grading you need one of these
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/decklink/models just pick the one that fits your needs.
The current fastest GPU for Resolve is the $700 AMD Radeon VII with 16 GB of 1 TB/s memory.
You need 2 displays, 1 for color grading(color accurate) and 1 for editing(lots of workspace).
Get a scratch drive of atleast 1 TB (samsung 970 PRO for example).
Get atleast 32 GB of memory, when you also work a lot with Fusion get at least 64 GB.

When you edit/grade a lot for content that will be shown in the cinema a 4096x2160 screen might be worth buying, otherwise get up to a 3840x2160 screen, these a way cheaper with the same quality (we grade on calibrated LG OLED TV's or Samsung QLED for high brightness enviroments).

What are your storage needs, do you have a NAS or do you want storage in your workstation.

Forgive my ignorance, but is that Black Magic Decklink card all I need to grade video with resolve? I don't need an expensive GPU then...?

Hi.

In Resolve the CPU is used to run the app, disk I/O and compression and decompression of codecs.
Resolve does all its image processing in the GPU on the graphics card. More CUDA/OpenCL Cores are better.

For 4K/UHD do I normally recommend a graphics Card with at least 8 GB of vRam.

And as Misha write in the previous post. For displaying 10 bit color during color grading you will also need a DeckLink Card.

Regards Carsten.

Read this:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommende ... mendations

Then this:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/artic ... nciResolve?

May help you decide.

If the PC build is not urgent, perhaps you could wait a few months for the new AMD Radeon RX3080/3070 series. Expected to be more power efficient than the Radeon VII. You will still need a powerful GPU even if the 10-bit needs a Declink card.

Rahul

Hi Michael,

Forgive my ignorance, but is that Black Magic Decklink card all I need to grade video with resolve? I don't need an expensive GPU then...?

Since Resolve does the image processing in the GPU, a good, or sufficient GPU is highly recommended.
However, the colors of the videos edited/manipulated in Resolve aren’t and cannot be accurate via the PC main monitor. Therefore a second monitor is needed for evaluating the video colors and for color correction/grading. In Resolve, that second monitor can be fed only via one of the Blackmagic Design cards, like a DeckLink.

Thanks guys, You are the best!

Sounds promising, what I just Heard from AMD, could this be the GPU You recommend, Misha:

Radeon Navi RX5700

I also wonder what type om Decklink card I should get? I want to be able to edit 10bit video in UHD as well as Cinema4K (4096x2160), so both resolutions must be included… What is the optimal way of connecting to the grading monitor, I guess HDMI is old school by now…?

Thanks guys, You are the best!

Sounds promising, what I just Heard from AMD, could this be the GPU You recommend, Misha:

Radeon Navi RX5700

I also wonder what type om Decklink card I should get? I want to be able to edit 10bit video in UHD as well as Cinema4K (4096x2160), so both resolutions must be included… What is the optimal way of connecting to the grading monitor, I guess HDMI is old school by now…?

We heard nothing about RX5700 yet that would allow anyone to recommend it for Resolve.

there is nothing more contemporary than HDMI, also there is nothing in the way of 4K video that HDMI can't handle if you stick to 24 fps...

Thanks guys, You are the best!

Sounds promising, what I just Heard from AMD, could this be the GPU You recommend, Misha:

Radeon Navi RX5700

I also wonder what type om Decklink card I should get? I want to be able to edit 10bit video in UHD as well as Cinema4K (4096x2160), so both resolutions must be included… What is the optimal way of connecting to the grading monitor, I guess HDMI is old school by now…?

I would pick the Radeon VII ~ $700, the new NAVI's only have 8 GByte of VRAM.
Navi is more a gaming GPU, Radeon VII is more a content creators GPU.

DeckLink Mini Monitor 4K $195 upto UHD 30 fps and 4k 24 fps
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/decklink/techspecs/W-DLK-32

DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G $895 upto UHD 60 fps and 4k 25 fps
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/decklink/techspecs/W-DLK-25

HDMI is great, no need to go SDI.

Ok, Radeon VII and DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G it is... I'm gonna doublecheck it works with 10bit 60fps from my GH5/Atomos Ninja and if 10bit C4K is supported... Glad I asked around...

Ok, Radeon VII and DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G it is... I'm gonna doublecheck it works with 10bit 60fps from my GH5/Atomos Ninja and if 10bit C4K is supported... Glad I asked around...

A question about monitor, I tried posting it in Post production forum but no replies, so I try here, You guys seem to know this stuff perfectly...:

In my efforts to build a computer perfect for work with Davinci Resolve, I am now pondering over monitor choice... Does anyone out there have any input to give on the Eizo ColorEdge CG319X...? Is it something you would recommend as a grading monitor or as a reference monitor, and is it possible to use a monitor for both of those purposes...? If I grade the material and then hit Ctrl + F for full screen on a true 10 bit display like that, then isn't that like "killing two birds with one stone", or am I missing some key concepts about grading monitors and reference monitors...?

That is a great monitor for color grading (bit expensive).
NEON24 might be even better https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/06/01/atomos-neon-cinema-monitor-recorders/
We use LG OLED's (UHD) because they are a lot cheaper and also color accurate.

Get an other mid-range 4k/uhd (or whatever size you like) screen for editing (doesn't have to be super color accurate).

Get an other mid-range 4k/uhd (or whatever size you like) screen for editing (doesn't have to be super color accurate).

Great, then I am on the right track, thanks Misha...! But can't I just use the same Eizo monitor for both editing and grading...? When I hit Ctrl + F, I get a full screen view of what I'm working on in the color page... And then I just switch between Edit and Color and Deliver tabs, for instance...?

That’s not the same. With a Decklink card you’ll avoid any changes to the image the OS is introducing.

Get an other mid-range 4k/uhd (or whatever size you like) screen for editing (doesn't have to be super color accurate).

Great, then I am on the right track, thanks Misha...! But can't I just use the same Eizo monitor for both editing and grading...? When I hit Ctrl + F, I get a full screen view of what I'm working on in the color page... And then I just switch between Edit and Color and Deliver tabs, for instance...?

No

I ordered the Ryzen 9 3900X but just learned it is pushed back to november... The Threadripper 2950 is more expensive than Rysen 9 eventhough it is older and slower... But it is available now... How come it is more expensive...? Is it still a great cpu with resolve...? I need to finish this deal right now...

I am about to invest heavily in a computer and a grading monitor that would work great with Davinci Resolve.

Hi.

Your CPU are only using around 14 to 16 cores 28 to 32 threads when working in Resolve.
That together with the odd memory configuration of the Threadripper 2970WX and 2990WX CPU's makes normally the 2950X a much better choice for Resolve.

In Resolve is all the Image processing including grading done in the GPU, and it's done in FP32.

The way to connect it to a grading monitor is to use a Black Magic DeckLink playback card. Here is a link:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/decklink

Regardes Carsten.

Hello Michael,
Which OS?

Ok, Radeon VII and DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G it is... I'm gonna doublecheck it works with 10bit 60fps from my GH5/Atomos Ninja and if 10bit C4K is supported... Glad I asked around...

Ask if anyone who has Studio version + AMD GPU has decoded hardware GH5 10bit UHD?

OS: win10... Not sure I understood your second question...

OS: win10... Not sure I understood your second question...

OS: win10... Not sure I understood your second question...

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I want to be able to perform color grading on video in 10 bit color (important) and hope that this setup will work well.
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Thanks in advance!
Michael Nilsson, Sweden

... I am going to grade 4K footage filmed with GH5 through an Atomos recorder as well as h265-files in 4K from Mavic 2 Pro for starters...

Ok, Radeon VII and DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G it is... I'm gonna doublecheck it works with 10bit 60fps from my GH5/Atomos Ninja and if 10bit C4K is supported... Glad I asked around...

DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G => OK
Radeon VII

I ordered the Ryzen 9 3900X but just learned it is pushed back to november... The Threadripper 2950 is more expensive than Ryzen 9 even though it is older and slower.

Hi.

I will try to explain. Both AMD and Intel have both a mainline and a top HEDT line of CPU's and motherboards. The AMD 2950X is from the previous generation Threadripper CPU's and come from the AMD HEDT line. Uses a X399 old type of motherboards and is produced in the 12nm process node.

AMD moved the border between the mainline and TOP HEDT line CPU upwards, togetter with the introduction of new 6-12 core mainline Ryzen CPU's this summer. The 12 core CPU is called the Ryzen 3900X, use the new X570 motherboards and are produced in the 7nm process node which is cheaper to produce, due to its smaller size.

The 16 core CPU Ryzen 3950X was scheduled to this September, but is now delayed until November.
The initial members of the 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor family will also be produced in the new 7nm process node and arrive in volume this November.


I don't know where you live. But I know all dealers around the world have the Ryzen 3900X 12 core CPU sold out. But some price searching sites lists, when you can expect it, from the different dealers.
As an example will I show a link to the German site Idealo.de:

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/Of ... x-amd.html

As you can se will it be possible to order one, specially if you agree to pay extra for it.

An another possibility is ebay.de

Regards Carsten.

Ok, Radeon VII and DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G it is... I'm gonna doublecheck it works with 10bit 60fps from my GH5/Atomos Ninja and if 10bit C4K is supported... Glad I asked around...

Ask if anyone who has Studio version + AMD GPU has decoded hardware GH5 10bit UHD?

He'll probably be recording to Prores or DNxHR 10-bit on Atomos so GPU HW decode has no consequence, if I understood correctly.

We've had the discussion before, I believe: neither Nvidia nor AMD will HW decode h.264 10 bit as is recorded internally by GH5...

Thanks for replying... I live in Sweden and have the Ryzen 9 on backorder at one of the larger computer sales companies, the delivery date is unlisted... It sounds like this thing is worth waiting for, but the wait is crippling because all the other components are already here, just waiting for this and unable to work without it... Well, just have to wait, I guess...

So, did you go for the CG319?

Jerry