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Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:15 am
by Jamie LeJeune
Is what appears on this thread really the extent of what exists for Fusion training?
Now that BMD has dropped the price of the Studio Version there's bound to be a lot of interest in using it for even simple motion graphics work for folks who want to ditch the monthly Adobe CC payment just for After Effects.

C'mom BMD, get on it and hire someone amazing for Fusion to rewrite the manual and create awesome video training like you hired Alexis Van Hurkman for Resolve! You've got a perfect model there, just follow the same path for Fusion!!!

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:41 pm
by Frank Glencairn
I want Andrew Kramer to man up, and do some Fusion tuts :D

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:59 pm
by Chad Capeland
Jamie LeJeune wrote:C'mom BMD, get on it and hire someone amazing for Fusion to rewrite the manual and create awesome video training like you hired Alexis Van Hurkman for Resolve! You've got a perfect model there, just follow the same path for Fusion!!!


The Resolve manual isn't a perfect model by any means.

It needs continuous integration, too. That's why rigidly formatted PDF manuals are terrible for software that is so complex. Also, there probably isn't one person who is qualified to write the thing. It may, by practical necessity, need to be a committee effort.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:00 pm
by Chad Capeland
Frank Glencairn wrote:I want Andrew Kramer to man up, and do some Fusion tuts :D


The problem being anyone reading this messages knows more about Fusion than he does.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:16 pm
by Frank Glencairn
Bwhahaha :lol:

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:00 am
by Jay Soriano
Ok now that Fusion 9 is out, I'm ready to jump in and learn. Will check youtube and google... What's the latest on excellent tutorials?

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:18 am
by Adelson Munhoz
Try these:

"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCysXflqUMpUxOf1fiqDjn6Q"

"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkk0mmgb5UMuBjK8cT64now"

"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCScpuAExh0dwzFnqIxf5NHQ"

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agH3mOPbGhs&list=PLeZvvhzFi_ZxQaF4u5D_YqqM6_nf974rP"

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvxQf9jEKXo&list=PLzx5ZMG3gsG84cLgGh-ucboI4G3IFP5uA"

"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCipLMPXrLt5ggS6L9oPwTOg"

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQSOtwPwyps&list=PLrwd7_Tc3c9xUs3jbiZ0rKxGWrdtsbsSd"

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaBVd_V02uE&list=PLXrNZxsK3Q4nZ_p3amtn6CLyJZYNxia4A"

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:24 am
by John Paines
Jamie LeJeune wrote:Is what appears on this thread really the extent of what exists for Fusion training?


It *is* puzzling -- and the videos "available" on the BMD Fusion page are *still* "private".

To take at its simplest: there a numerous mentions on the Resolve board for using Fusion for titles, thanks to the limitations in Resolve proper. But search for that subject in either of two Fusion 9 reference manuals, and you won't find a thing. It's nuts, this enormously powerful application (so people say, anyway), and no instruction on how to use it.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:22 am
by Mark Sterne
John Paines wrote:
Jamie LeJeune wrote:Is what appears on this thread really the extent of what exists for Fusion training?


It *is* puzzling -- and the videos "available" on the BMD Fusion page are *still* "private".

To take at its simplest: there a numerous mentions on the Resolve board for using Fusion for titles, thanks to the limitations in Resolve proper. But search for that subject in either of two Fusion 9 reference manuals, and you won't find a thing. It's nuts, this enormously powerful application (so people say, anyway), and no instruction on how to use it.


I am able to access Fusion training on BMD site here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... n/training

Maybe this is not the page you are trying to access?

I agree that there is a surprising lack of training videos compared to, say AE or Nuke. But there are some good ones available, Adelson's links are worth checking out. Thenika's videos were really helpful to me.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:47 am
by John Paines
Mark Sterne wrote:I am able to access Fusion training on BMD site here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... n/training

Maybe this is not the page you are trying to access?


Turns out it was a Chrome browser extension conflict, which prevented viewing. So at least the videos are available.

I do wish the manuals were more helpful. Operations may be obvious for someone with an fx background, but otherwise it's a foreign language.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:37 pm
by Chad Capeland
John Paines wrote:
Mark Sterne wrote:I am able to access Fusion training on BMD site here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... n/training

Maybe this is not the page you are trying to access?


Turns out it was a Chrome browser extension conflict, which prevented viewing. So at least the videos are available.

I do wish the manuals were more helpful. Operations may be obvious for someone with an fx background, but otherwise it's a foreign language.


The reverse is true for anyone trying to read the Resolve user guide. It's hard learning not just the software but the philosophy and background for it.

I wonder if anyone has tried making a sideline gig out of doing remote desktop training. I know it's so much easier to do 1:1 training, I bet you could get up and running in under an hour if you had the right tutor.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:24 am
by Steve Alexander
I wish Ripple training had a Fusion expert. Particularly one with Resolve expertise as well.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:29 pm
by Jamie LeJeune
Steve Alexander wrote:I wish Ripple training had a Fusion expert. Particularly one with Resolve expertise as well.

I've talked to the Ripple folks about it a couple times and they said they might do something, but it didn't appear to be a priority compared to other apps. I encourage you to contact them and request Fusion tutorials. Perhaps if they get more requests, they will do something.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:55 pm
by robredman
These probably won't be of any use to experienced users but I've started posting my Fusion 9 new features videos on my channel. SO far posted Planar tracker and Camera tracker tutorials. More to come.
More importantly I'd love to get some feedback, hear what you think and what you'd like to see more or less of.

Find me: pariahrob on youtube and twitter.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:37 pm
by Steve Alexander
HI Jamie - I did contact them about Fusion tutorials (last year) and they told me they couldn't find anyone to create them with sufficient quality. So a lack of expertise in their own group at this point. Too bad. Maybe I'll ping them again.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:55 pm
by Uli Plank
If you don't desperately need videos to learn, try some reading with Bryan Ray.

I can recommend his tutorials for a precise and deep introduction.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:04 pm
by Ciro Cardoso
I was very happy to see some Project Files that you could download and learn more. But honestly we need more of that and more training. Not only about the tools, but also some practical effects and post work as well.

Like the guys at Blur use Fusion, why don't grab some of them and do a couple of nice tutorials.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:20 pm
by Sander de Regt
What kind of stuff are you looking for? The range of topics is so wide, you need to be more precise.
Personally I've recently done a tutorial on muzzle flashes in Fusion. Some of the techniques in there can be applied to a range of topics.


Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:58 pm
by Ciro Cardoso
I want to use Fusion for Architectural Visualization. I know it sounds crazy when you think you can use Photoshop. But I want to use 32 bit files and I want to have a more flexible way to work between reviews and small changes. I would love to see something about colour gradding\correction and adding effects like smoke, water, et. More related to VFX. Some matte painting as well.

I think that what BMD did with that ship project is fantastic. We could have more of that, so you can learn how to use Fusion. Like, I loved how they created chromatic aberration.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:52 pm
by Daniel Stern
robredman wrote:These probably won't be of any use to experienced users but I've started posting my Fusion 9 new features videos on my channel. SO far posted Planar tracker and Camera tracker tutorials. More to come.
More importantly I'd love to get some feedback, hear what you think and what you'd like to see more or less of.

Find me: pariahrob on youtube and twitter.


Hi Rob ,thanks for your great job. We really need more stuff like that. Especially for beginners / easy advanced. For advanced/specialists exist some nice possibilities. What we need are some fundamental /easy advanced trainings. There are some nice videos out there, but sometimes the makers pack too much information in a short clip. As a beginner you are always missing some background information. So we need really methodically built tutorials. This would be really BMD's job. They should hire some good trainers. That would pay off for them. Think of their universe of hardware, software and services and the potential of an increasing user base. There is the diversity of available trainings what makes the competitors so strong. As they did with their software, BMD must go the same consistent way with the trainings to attract more people ( filmmakers, enthusiasts ... )

Thanks again Rob for your effort. You're welcome.


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Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:57 pm
by Daniel Stern
Sander de Regt wrote:What kind of stuff are you looking for? The range of topics is so wide, you need to be more precise.
Personally I've recently done a tutorial on muzzle flashes in Fusion. Some of the techniques in there can be applied to a range of topics.



Thanks also for your effort. I would like to see a tutorial about glass shattering, Perhaps a more profound series about the particle system ( ok this is huge ). I searched the whole web for a tutorial (glass shattering), nothing, ok, I gave up it was late.

BTW, you are a very gifted trainer. You should make more for Fusion and BMD should open a program to collect these fantastic tutorials.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:07 pm
by Peter Paterson

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:26 pm
by Sander de Regt
Hi everyone,

I just created a new tutorial on how to use Fusion Studio's Planar Tracker for wrinkle removal.
Of course this technique can be applied to other 'beauty work' as well.
I hope you enjoy it.


Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:21 pm
by Peter Paterson
Cheers, Sander.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:06 am
by Bernd Klimm
Adding to the variety of training videos discussed here, let me bring another beginner level one, which might be interesting for editors. How to make custom, context based transitions in Fusion.

Since it's with editing in mind, I'm starting from Resolve and then go over to Fusion with Fusion connect. But you can skip to 03:12 if you are interested in Fusion only.



The source footage and fusion files are also available if anyone is interested to follow along.

Cheers,
Bernd

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:03 am
by Thomas Martin
There is some formerly free official eyeon courseware for F5. Unfortunately, it disappeared
from the eyeon/BMD sites. But Google gave me two IMO legal sources.

EYEON.FUSION.5.COURSEWARE.DVDRIP-HCG.torrent 695 MB
Eyeon Fusion CourseWare Vol.1-2.torrent 1.08 GB

None of them is active, probably since they are getting old.
Is there any way to get this courseware and could BMD make more
such legacy material available ?

Edit: In the meantime I realized that this was already subject of earlier threads, for instance
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=39436&hilit=courseware
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=31181&hilit=courseware

In the latter thread it seems that some users successfully downloaded
the the entire tutorials with assets. Is there anyone who could make this stuff
available ?

Best Regards, Thomas

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:28 pm
by meaganmargaret
I can tell you that I will not purchase until I know there are some good training available on Fusion 9.

You guys need to get together with Lynda.com and get some training out there (with practice media!).

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:27 pm
by KathrynGallegos
Can anyone provide me fusion Training videos

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:04 pm
by Thierry Bergeron
KathrynGallegos wrote:Can anyone provide me fusion Training videos

Browse the topic you posted in and you will get what you asked for

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:46 pm
by Thomas Martin
meaganmargaret wrote:You guys need to get together with Lynda.com and get some training out there (with practice media!).

That is a very good idea, also for Resolve. Hope that BMD can make this happen. The fragments one
gets from youtube or vimeo are no proper replacement for a throughout training.

BTW, I am still wondering whether anyone could make the old (and free) Eyeon Courseware available again.

Re: Fusion Training Videos

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:35 am
by Jamie LeJeune
Thomas Martin wrote: also for Resolve


If you're looking for good Resolve training, both Ripple Training and MixingLight.com have wonderfully made comprehensive video training courses that include training media. No need to look elsewhere.

Unfortunately, for Fusion there's nothing even remotely close.