Fusion for Linux

Hi,

I know you guys are porting Fusion to Mac, but I would like to ask that you port it in a way that allows the program to also be ported to Linux. A lot of big shops run linux over windows. Thanks for the free version of Fusion. Keep up the good work.

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Hi,

there already was a Linux version of Fusion by eyeon. However, in all those years I have seen exactly one post on the old Fusion forum about the Linux version. I don't know who has actually used it (maybe Prime Focus?)

I don't know why 7.5 is no longer available for Linux, maybe somebody from Blackmagic can shed some light onto it? I suspect that it just wasn't high priority to get it out alongside the free Windows version for now. It might have even been a hassle to support because of all those different distributions. When Vfxpedia.com was still available, there used to be a page about installing it on Linux and it sounded like rocket science.

cheers

Stefan

Linux version of Fusion Studio please.

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The current/past implementation of Fusion for Linux by Eyeon has a windows version of Fusion running on their implementation of Wine. This is not a true linux version and we have been using it in production for years with great pain and suffering.

PLEASE GIVE US A LINUX NATIVE VERSION at least for rendering. Most large scale render farms run on Linux.

Thanks -T

Hello,

I am wondering if there are any chances to have Fusion for Linux?
As I know Eyeon used to have a modified Wine version that allowed to run Fusion on any Linux environment at full functions (I suppose, never got the chance to try it, but people were really positive about it working flawlessly for their productions)

Seeing Blackmagic Design is going to go through the burden to code Fusion for Mac OS X, maybe you could also give some love for Linux based production houses and starving artists?
Via the existing modified wine tool if not native app?

Thank you for your time.

Well, I am very new to Fusion but I would really like to have Fusion for Linux.

So, take my +1

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I very confident Linux support will come.

Not sure how it is today but underneath OS X and linux was somewhat similar.

If that is still the case then i see not problem making linux version out of OS X version for BM.

+1 for me too

+1 as long as it is native code. If it uses Wine I would just use Windows anyway.

Most people using Linux would be using RHEL/CENTOS so I would vote for that too, though a DEBIAN/UBUNTU/LINUX MINT version would also be cool and probably not too hard to do.

+1 for me too

+1 as long as it is native code. If it uses Wine I would just use Windows anyway.

Most people using Linux would be using RHEL/CENTOS so I would vote for that too, though a DEBIAN/UBUNTU/LINUX MINT version would also be cool and probably not too hard to do.

Using Wine doesn't mean it's not native code. Previous versions of Fusion for linux were always native code.

Wine by name is not emulation.

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Good one.

I never suggested for a second that WINE was an emulator. My reasons are entirely different. From my understanding, and please correct me if I am wrong, but WINE in its 64bit guise is buggy and performance does take a hit somewhat but due to limited development. I know this is not the case for the 32bit version, and in some cases games can actually have better performance on Linux+Wine than on native Windows itself in the 32bit version.

Users who have actually used the previous Fusion Linux version can no doubt set me straight which I have no problem with at all. Was Fusion running 64bit under WINE? Also, what versions of Linux did it support?

The only other issue for me would be Resolve needing it's own version of Linux. I'd be interested in installing Resolve & Fusion alongside each other.

On behalf of about 5.5 thousand Fusion artists at cmiVFX, we have a HUGE hope for linux. More than OS X at this point. (Our database has been a great indicator of the future of VFX. watching it has been a privilege)

Trends on our end are probably what you can imagine. It went from windows to ALL OS X a few years back. But then as of lately, linux has been eating both WINDOWS AND OS X numbers. Since all VFX apps have a linux version, i pray that we can continue that movement.

FUSION LNUX OF OLD.... that was NOT real linux... but an emulator. it was just enough to raise awareness but it was NOT a real solution for many. Thats why it didnt take off back then. it wasnt what people wanted.

(it used WINE.. and dont kid yourself.. WINE is NOT the end all be all solution for anything.)

I can guarantee Fusion Linux (as a real port) could change the face of STUDIO VFX across the globe. Smaller studios may have gone from Win to OS X... but larger places need linux solutions. (the complaints about newer OS X versions and apps have been rampant. people WONT or CANT upgrade for various reasons) I dont know if that will have impact, but im willing to be my car that linux fusion will be the pivotal point for fusion to take marketshare that it MORE THAN DESERVES.

Ever since Fusion 5 (best UI of fusion btw) it has been SO SAD to watch fusion die along side with windows. THANK YOU BLACK MAGIC.... (after watching Shake, Chalice go to trash... i was getting hives about the future of Fu) thank you for this much needed solution.

(personally i need both OS X and linux.) but im just one person. (i work on 10 machines at one time NOT by choice). count me in for testing on either.

-c

I hope fusion would have the efficiency as shake had.
At least it seems so.

Renderings was fast and not apparent choking.

I bet linux version could deliver it all.

Plus serious gpu support on all aspects would be great plus.

Lets say you have hp z840 and max it out with gtx titans.
Machine like that should work as on double cream in any situations.

This is the thing that turned me to Resolve. Realtime everything.

I'd also argue that you are so limited with Mac Hardware now, the options for the OSX route are very limited, and some would argue expensive. I'd also prefer not to have the security and performance issues of Windows, plus the hassle of having to regularly de-frag storage. Linux is by far the best fit for me.

However, I would want to see Resolve available on Linux that does not require a custom Centos distro. That is kind of limiting. Instead, you could possibly include an installer kit that adds any dependencies or driver mods that are required by the system.

I'd also prefer not to have the security and performance issues of Windows, plus the hassle of having to regularly de-frag storage. Linux is by far the best fit for me.

FYI, Windows no longer needs storage defragmenting. It's done as a background process.

I'd also prefer not to have the security and performance issues of Windows, plus the hassle of having to regularly de-frag storage.

Just wondering if you tried Windows beyond 98 ?
Security issues
Not sure a windows computer is going to shoot you in the face and if you are talking about malware, well if you are using a computer for a living in 2014 and dont know how to avoid malware, you dont need linux you need my little pony
Performance issues
Are you really trying to say that Linux can compete in performance with either Win or Mac when the media creation world is based nearly entirely on manufacturer based driver development ? A lot of whom see Linux as much of a toy as it is valuable ? GPU drivers for example (i will be polite and not cover the compkete lack EVER of any low latency audio driver on Linux, oh wait i lied, no i wont)
Defragging
See question above about 98


Far from being a Linux hater, i really enjoy tinkering in Linux and for the average home pc it can be a great idea, realtime media creation using modern GPUs and audio hardware, not on your nelly

Are you really trying to say that Linux can compete in performance with either Win or Mac when the media creation world is based nearly entirely on manufacturer based driver development ?

Linux is an excellent OS for media creation, provided your software supports it.

realtime media creation using modern GPUs and audio hardware, not on your nelly

Audio is mostly uninteresting in many VFX pipelines... ask companys like Trixter why they use Linux on their Nuke-Pipeline, or why Flame runs on Linux

In the VFX world, Linux is a big thing. I'm with you on the security/defrag stuff regarding Windows, but saying Linux isn't capable of this (especially as we are talking about compositing), well, that is *maybe* a bit off.

Erm no, please do not try and put words in my text that werent there, i said Linux support for hardware like GPUs made it garbage for realtime media creation, disagree all you like, im stating facts

nVidia is actually supporting Linux (you can ask BMD regarding DaVinci Resolve on that, too), and "real time media creation" while we talk about compositing applications... hm, ok, usually in arguments we talk about things that matter but it's cool

Have you even used Fusion ?
A big part of its engine is realtime on the GPU hahahaha

Not that much tbh, but I comp for quite some time and depending on what size you work in, realtime is gone really soon
But I see where this is going so have fun beeing ignorant on your own

+1 would certainly love Linux version.

And judging by the talks I've had with folks that work in some of the major studios it may be a good idea (at least worthy to research sense of it). For example during one of the talks there was a question:
"Why don't you use 3D Studio Max in your pipeline?"
Answer:
"I don't have anything against it, but truth to be told all our machines run on either OSX or Linux and as there's no Max on those platforms we don't use it".

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centOS 7 or Debian will be great - also AMD Profire cards works good on Linux

Further to Chris Maynard's note above and the various comments about linux being not good for media creation, I have used fusion on linux (various flavours, mostly centos5 and centos6) on a number of large productions up to about the 6.4 release. Although some of the interactive stuff was done on windows (and sometimes linux) pretty much all the rendering was done on a fair size linux render farm and driven by Greg Ercolano's excellent render manager Rush, which works across max, win and linux and allowed us to kick off, monitor and control renders from just about any workstation.

The render machines used eyeons own version of Wine which was tweaked for fusion - this was pretty stable and ran fine. Whether or not you want to call it an emulation is in my opinion semantics only, but obviously a fully "native" version would have been a bit more convenient. We didn't have much problem with this setup, though.

Nearly every medium to large scale vfx company I know runs linux render farms and without a linux version of fusion, under wine or not, chances of it being adopted are a bit slim, I'm afraid.

The big issue, as was touched on earlier, is the GPU stuff. A lot of older render farm machines still don't have graphics cards and even with some of those that do the linux driver issues could be a big deal. Because of this I stayed away from GPU accelerated functions and used the software CG renderer only when working on comps that would end up on the farm.

It now looks as though we are at the point where this might no longer be possible, and comps that use GPU functions would need to be sent to suitably set up machines. This could be limited by nvidia's support for the linux drivers which can lag behind the win and mac support. So the linux issue is not as simple as it might first appear . . .

All the workstations in the studio I work use exclusively linux... I would love to have fusion installed in the machine where I do my work...
+1 for a linux version

Hi All.
Im new here so Hello everybody and big thank's to all BlackMagic people for all the work with new Fusion
and new sign of second life for this app.

Im old Fusion user. And I have two floating license of old Fusion 6.3 on Windows. Yes, windows
because 3 years ago I was fighting to run fusion on linux. Unfortunately, I could not mainly by very weak support from Eyeon, who declared that it should work. Unfortunately for me did not work in any possible configuration. Still all Our studio is run on linux ( Centos64 6.5). We have some workstations on windows just for Fusion and Photoshop. Sad situation is when We consider to integrate Fusion in Our pipeline.
Of Course all pipeline is mostly on linux, all apps are connected to Ftrack, etc. All software that We use for 3d work is linux native...
So, for me at the moment is very important to finally see the Fusion running on Linux without any problems. It would be very good option to the world of image composition, VFX, was more than a Nuke.
If will be v.7.5 for Linux My money will fly to BlackMagic on next day.
Please Guys, give us some feedback about Fusion on Linux.
Cheers Olaf

I get why the idea of a OS X version would look more interesting than a Linux version at first glance, but lets be honest, the route Apple are taking with their hardware, it seems likely OS X will be something used less and less in production for every coming year...

And don't get me wrong, I'm on no way a OS fanboy either way, I was on Mac's from 1989 to the late 2000s, but when they stopped informing their user base on coming updated software as well as hardware, that's not really a company I feel I could depend on, so I dropped them.

As of today (Feb 19/2015) I was informed that BlackMagic WOULD be doing a native Linux Render version once the MAC port is complete. For all of us that rely on large Linux clusters to do all of our rendering for large scale productions this comes as very good news. We currently use windows as a front end and Linux as render. We have been stuck at V6.4 as that is the last version we could get to work rendering on Linux (yes this was on top of the Eyeon Wine implementation but at least we could get it to work) We were also on the verge of throwing Fusion away because of no commitment for a large scale render solution. Hopefully there may be more information at NAB, so TALK to people about it.

-TD

Terry

Good news... Thanks for sharing that. Is there a LIKE button on this forum?

Good news indeed - and thanks to Terry and Arc for focusing Black Magic on just how necessary this is if they are serious about the vfx market. Let's hope it's sooner rather than later, before people are forced to move to a system they can run on their farms.

I am all for a linux version for render nodes. It would be much easier to maintain. For workstations Windows works fine (great in fact). I think it is funny that Chris thinks all the studios are moving to Mac. We are seeing the exact opposite. People tired of limited hardware, and very limited choices of VFX related apps switching over to Windows.

I was a total Mac fanboy from 1984 (yes, the original Mac in Feb 1984) through about 2000. Honestly, now I am worried Apple will completely give up on the pro market. Jobs had no interest in it; his vision was a consumer electronics company, which is what they have become. We shall see if Tim Cook can revive the pro market with useful hardware on the OSX front, but I don't think that is in Apple's business plans.

A lot of places I've freelanced at are using Linux workstations for compositing. Including the place where I'm currently maintaining a pipeline.

Another vote for a Linux version!
We use centOS with Maya and RenderMan, so it would be great to have it natively without WINE.

No need to vote for it.