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Peter Lane

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Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 2:43 am

I've watched some of the Fusion 7 tutorials. I'm only interested in being able to remove unwanted objects from some of my film clip videos. Nothing else matters to me in Fusion. Is there a particular Fusion tutorial which explains the steps in how to remove unwanted objects from film clip videos? thanks
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 7:20 am

Peter Lane wrote:Is there a particular Fusion tutorial which explains the steps in how to remove unwanted objects from film clip videos? thanks


The basic theory goes like this:

(1) Take one or more still frames from the video into Photoshop;

(2) In Photoshop, remove unwanted objects using clone tool and content-aware fill. This frame is called a "clean plate;"

(3) Import the clean plate into your compositor. Make one instance of the clean plate for each object you will remove.

(4) Track one object you wish to remove;

(5) Transform an instance of the clean plate to the track of the object to be removed;

(6) Mask the clean plate to cover the object you want to remove;

(7) Repeat process with each object to be removed and each instance of the clean plate

(8) Render final with all objects removed.


Now that you know how the process works, you can learn to do the steps in Fusion, Nuke, AE, Mocha or any other software that has tracking and masking features.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 7:44 am

You waisted your time:P
My question remains.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 7:54 am

Peter Lane wrote:You waisted your time:P
My question remains.


That just means you're incapable of learning.


P.S. --"waist" is the thing that gets bigger when you eat too much.

You meant "waste."
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:02 am

I don't have photoshop and I am asking a fair question. Never mind my spelling. You are wasting more of my time and yours. Go away.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:24 am

Peter Lane wrote:I don't have photoshop and I am asking a fair question. Never mind my spelling. You are wasting more of my time and yours. Go away.


Hey Peter I do believe Lee Gauthier was being "fair" in answering such a NOOB question,
But hey there are many ways to remove something from footage in Fusion, but sadly you're determined to learn the hard way. :lol:

Here is a bone for you to chew on, Enjoy!
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:32 am

He gave you good advice. If you didn't shoot a clean plate, you'll need to make one. Fusion is not the right program to do that. You can use any image processing software, even free one like Gimp, but Photoshop makes it easier with it's content aware fill.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:34 am

The ****** was being patronising then out right insulting. So, my question still remains. Can Fusion 7 remove obstacles? I don't want to use frgn Photoshop. If people don't know the answer to that simple question then there is no need to 'waste' my time.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:37 am

Thank you for your reply Uli.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:47 am

Peter Lane wrote:The ****** was being patronising then out right insulting. So, my question still remains. Can Fusion 7 remove obstacles? I don't want to use frgn Photoshop. If people don't know the answer to that simple question then there is no need to 'waste' my time.


Wasting your time?
You greedy little turd!
If you get a reply/response you should be thankful even if it was not the answer/solution you needed.

You're not worth anyone's time when you act like a brat, and can't appreciate someones honest response.

WTF! are you 12?
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 9:27 am

Oh getting a bit hot under the collar Darrrle. His advice was a condescending lecture. If you can't handle that, then buy a box of tissues and drop dead. I only care for answers from BM staff from now on.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 5:03 pm

Wow. He gave you the basic steps to do it. If you read it as being condescending I think you have issues. :roll:
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 5:30 pm

I haven't had to do this in awhile but here it goes...

Let's keep things civil here or threads will be locked and warnings will be issued. People are coming here for assistance. If you cannot offer anything constructive, do not comment plain and simple.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 8:22 pm

Abe,
So this is not condescending? This is what he said.

(That just means you're incapable of learning.


P.S. --"waist" is the thing that gets bigger when you eat too much.

You meant "waste.")

...Fusion is not Photoshop. He wasn't answering the question I asked. Uli answered the question. If I wanted to know what Photoshop can do, I would have asked.
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PostThu Nov 13, 2014 9:14 pm

Peter Lane wrote:Can Fusion 7 remove obstacles?


No, it can't. It can, however, enable a VFX artist to do so.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 9:45 pm

How can it enable a VFX artist to do so please?
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PostThu Nov 13, 2014 9:46 pm

Lee summarized the steps pretty nicely already.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostThu Nov 13, 2014 9:51 pm

I was after a Fusion 7 video tutorial that explains it in steps for beginners. I should have mentioned 'video' in the original question. I have seen a youtube tutorial on how to do it but that is for people who are familiar with Fusion or other VFX apps.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostMon Nov 17, 2014 12:49 pm

Peter Lane wrote:Abe,
So this is not condescending? This is what he said.

(That just means you're incapable of learning.


P.S. --"waist" is the thing that gets bigger when you eat too much.

You meant "waste.")

...Fusion is not Photoshop. He wasn't answering the question I asked. Uli answered the question. If I wanted to know what Photoshop can do, I would have asked.



All this was from his 2nd response, AFTER you had already accused him of "waisting" your time and AFTER he had given you a nice, detailed response. If you can't see how you were rude here...
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostMon Nov 17, 2014 12:55 pm

Wow.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostMon Nov 17, 2014 1:26 pm

unbelievable...
thx lee anyway!
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PostMon Nov 17, 2014 8:14 pm

To those who have defended Lee-
I was quick to Judge Lee's reply to my question, but he was quick to insult me & nit pick my spelling. Get over it. I am turning Notifications off, so I don't have to read any more bs from people who don't matter. :mrgreen:
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostMon Nov 17, 2014 8:50 pm

Wow. Just wow.



If you don't have Photoshop then try Pixelmator.

Lee deserves an apology. He answered your question eloquently and with professional advice. Fusion can't create the clean plate you need to remove something in frame - Photoshop or a similar program can if you haven't shot one. Joking about a spelling didn't deserve your abuse and petulant nature.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostMon Nov 17, 2014 9:12 pm

wow - again.

Congratulations Peter Lane - you are really the most objectionable person i have seen on the internet for quite some time.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostTue Nov 18, 2014 1:49 am

This search took all of 12 seconds
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostTue Nov 18, 2014 2:06 am

Why waist your thyme, let the funk rot in help...
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostTue Nov 18, 2014 8:44 am

Peter Lane wrote:To those who have defended Lee-
I was quick to Judge Lee's reply to my question, but he was quick to insult me & nit pick my spelling. Get over it. I am turning Notifications off, so I don't have to read any more bs from people who don't matter. :mrgreen:


I am turning Notifications off, so I don't have to read any more bs from people who don't matter.


:lol: That was one of the funniest things I have ever read on this forum :lol:
God bless you Peter Lane, I hope it all works out for you :lol:
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostTue Nov 18, 2014 12:27 pm

All the more considering he posted this in the wrong board. Mod, maybe you can move it to the Fusion forum?

And yes, the right approach to almost anything is to understand the process first, and only then to learn the tools to do it. Otherwise, it's just pushing buttons sequentially.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostTue Nov 18, 2014 12:35 pm

Peter Lane wrote:To those who have defended Lee-
I was quick to Judge Lee's reply to my question, but he was quick to insult me & nit pick my spelling. Get over it. I am turning Notifications off, so I don't have to read any more bs from people who don't matter. :mrgreen:


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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostTue Nov 18, 2014 11:33 pm

Pollenstudio wrote:
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Fusion can't create the clean plate you need to remove something in frame...


That's quite incorrect ,Fusion can and is used to create clean plates ,remove wires,objects etc on footage or still images.
In fact I can't figure a single operation or technique which PS can perform and Fusion can't ,though in PS some are made easier/faster.
The particular clean plate creation using content aware algorithm in PS is not implemented in Fusion, but its done by manually pasting/adjusting/painting parts of the image/other frames , over desired area.
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PostWed Nov 19, 2014 2:09 am

I create clean plates in Fusion quite often. Lee's steps were spot on, and can be done in Photoshop or Fusion.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostWed Nov 19, 2014 6:34 am

Fusion does everything Photoshop can do and its even better when it comes to masking.
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PostWed Nov 19, 2014 6:52 am

lee patterson wrote:This search took all of 12 seconds

This is why you hire someone to do this.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostWed Nov 19, 2014 12:34 pm

Derek Serra wrote:I create clean plates in Fusion quite often. Lee's steps were spot on, and can be done in Photoshop or Fusion.


Yes,for the most cases the steps outlined are the way to go, but not always.

Sometimes a simple cloning in conjunction with appropriate CC and some filtering(erode/dialate f.e.) of near by area, whether using paint tool or transform with mask does the job. For example when re-building edges of objects which got light wrapped by original lighting and need to be composed on a different BG.
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostWed Nov 19, 2014 5:30 pm

Yeah I would be inclined to IP ban ole Peter Lane if I was a mod here. The answer was given several times...
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostWed Nov 19, 2014 7:41 pm

Vladimir LaFortune wrote:Fusion does everything Photoshop can do and its even better when it comes to masking.
:?
You know it my friend! PS went obsolete years ago :lol:
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Re: Fusion 7 tutorials

PostWed Nov 19, 2014 8:22 pm

Marc van Vliet wrote:
Vladimir LaFortune wrote:Fusion does everything Photoshop can do and its even better when it comes to masking.
:?
You know it my friend! PS went obsolete years ago :lol:


Of course, neither of these statements are accurate, but I appreciate your enthusiasm.

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