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VladMafteiu

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Fusion UI

PostSat Jan 31, 2015 7:18 pm

Hi,

Will Fusion get DaVinci Resolve nice/modern UI or be stuck with the 1995 look? :)

Thanks,
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Re: Fusion UI

PostThu Feb 05, 2015 12:21 am

There used to be Appearance in the Preferences which enabled this:
http://www.comp-fu.com/2014/08/fresh-14 ... sion-skin/
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Re: Fusion UI

PostThu Feb 05, 2015 3:17 am

But you can still hack it in 7.6, too:

http://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckle ... ?f=16&t=34
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Re: Fusion UI

PostThu Feb 05, 2015 11:53 am

I think UI visuals are quite functional and still looking fresh. Do you really need an orange or cyan highlights? I like mud-yellow accent color cause its subdued but good enough to distinguish. My workflow consists of coloring nodes and text in bright accent colors for easier visual description of what each node does (ie merge is always bright cyan for level1 merge, nodes with expression or animation are bright orange, etc) and usually there is a note underlay which is also colored to explain what is going on especially in product motion design projects (ie after x hits y on node1, node2 x goes to z, etc). So in my case color coded pipeline is all that is accented.

On the subject of UX there is a lot of room for improvement especially how you adjust some options that is inconsistent and slider input value that can be unintuitive from tool to tool.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostThu Feb 05, 2015 4:08 pm

Pieter Van Houte wrote:But you can still hack it in 7.6, too:

http://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckle ... ?f=16&t=34


Could you please try to grab the hack .zip file and post it somewhere where everyone can access it? That forum does not allow to download attachment for non-registered users. :)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostThu Feb 05, 2015 4:25 pm

Ludvik Koutny wrote:
Pieter Van Houte wrote:But you can still hack it in 7.6, too:

http://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckle ... ?f=16&t=34


Could you please try to grab the hack .zip file and post it somewhere where everyone can access it? That forum does not allow to download attachment for non-registered users. :)


Funny you're asking me that, of all people.

Please consider registering, there's more to that than just being allowed to download, like a while work in progress section for you to learn from other people's work and their willingness to share. It's getting pretty cool in there. ;)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostThu Feb 05, 2015 10:46 pm

Pieter Van Houte wrote:
Ludvik Koutny wrote:
Pieter Van Houte wrote:But you can still hack it in 7.6, too:

http://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckle ... ?f=16&t=34


Could you please try to grab the hack .zip file and post it somewhere where everyone can access it? That forum does not allow to download attachment for non-registered users. :)


Funny you're asking me that, of all people.

Please consider registering, there's more to that than just being allowed to download, like a while work in progress section for you to learn from other people's work and their willingness to share. It's getting pretty cool in there. ;)


Hehe, sorry, i didn't notice you administrate that site. I will probably register just to steal that .zip file, but it's actually mandatory registration to download files, what for me personally creates reluctance to register in the first place. It's also unfortunate that Fusion community is currently scattered across three different equally active forums.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 06, 2015 12:55 am

Does having to pay for food in a supermarket make you reluctant to eat, too?

On that forum you can find, and download, for free, knowledge and tools that represent months - if not years - of work. You can even find extensive help on how to use those properly. I personally enjoy sharing in that way and I offer a place for like-minded people to do the same thing. Turns out I'm clearly not alone, and the forum is growing on a daily basis.

The only thing I ask for in return is that you would consider being an active part of that community, which begins with registration. Even so, actually participating is still not mandatory. Having to be logged in when downloading something does make the threshold of making a post very low. And that's what that is about.

Who knows, it's a crazy idea, but you could even say thanks when you steal that file.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 06, 2015 12:37 pm

I really can't understand that argument honestly. There are no ads on that page, so more users don't generate more profit. They actually generate more traffic which in the end makes hosting equally more expensive. Sure it makes sense the more users on the forum, the better. But honestly, downloading one file would not lure me to be active member of yet another forum, especially since Fusion now has an official one.

I understand your point, but i still think restricting file downloads to registered members only is not a good idea. Whatever the intention may be, it will likely end up with many inactive, only once used accounts.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 06, 2015 12:44 pm

What a completely strange and ridiculous point of view, you want the download, and the next time you want a download it will probably be on that forum, what are you going to do, create a new registration each time, no, just register and download or don't register and don't download, done and done.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 06, 2015 9:57 pm

Ludvik Koutny wrote:more users don't generate more profit.


There are still places where people gather to help each other, share knowledge, AND keep signal to noise on sensible level. Steakunderwater is such a place and Pieter deserves big thank you from community for what he (and many others) do there.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 5:44 pm

Much appreciated, Jiri! You're welcome. :)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostTue Feb 10, 2015 6:22 pm

Thanks for the Fresh Theme. I have always liked this one, but had not used it in a while... :)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 13, 2015 11:43 am

The actual UI is nice and clear as it should but I think just a flat design refresh of the UI elments should be a good idea.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 13, 2015 7:53 pm

I started a flat theme some time ago, didn't port it over to the BMD version
https://reichofevil.wordpress.com/2013/ ... gui-theme/
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Re: Fusion UI

PostTue Feb 17, 2015 5:02 am

michael vorberg wrote:I started a flat theme some time ago, didn't port it over to the BMD version
https://reichofevil.wordpress.com/2013/ ... gui-theme/


That's still the one I have in 6.4 to this day! I haven't hacked 7.7 with fresh14 yet, so it makes it weird for me... I have this odd sensation of jumping into a more modern compositing app when I open 6.4 . :) It plays with your brain!
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 5:29 am

Pieter Van Houte wrote:But you can still hack it in 7.6, too:

http://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckle ... ?f=16&t=34


Does anyone know how to include a ui skin in a global preferences file? I would love to use this skin as the default skin for all the compositors. Is there a way to specify this skin in a config file ? I tried looking at the config file that is created when I quit so I could grab the settings out of my prefs and add them to the global prefs we use, but I do not see any mention of the fuskin in the prefs file.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 10:23 am

Hi Fred,

unfortunately, I think that's not possible. Even in the old days, the skin settings were saved in the Windows registry instead of the Fusion.prefs file.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 3:47 pm

Stefan Ihringer wrote:Hi Fred,

unfortunately, I think that's not possible. Even in the old days, the skin settings were saved in the Windows registry instead of the Fusion.prefs file.


Interesting... Well, I looked through the registry and did not have any easy to find registry entries. Does anyone have any info on what the registry items might be named? I am not ready to give up ;)


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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 3:56 pm

Blackmagic Fusion no longer saves the skin info in the registry (it has removed skin settings from the preferences altogether).
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 4:43 pm

Stefan Ihringer wrote:Blackmagic Fusion no longer saves the skin info in the registry (it has removed skin settings from the preferences altogether).

Thanks for that ... Save my time for something more important. :)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 6:48 pm

I say enjoy the skins while you can :)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 7:15 pm

Rony Soussan wrote:I say enjoy the skins while you can :)


Because we know what a support nightmare skins have been in the past? Seems like a pretty innocuous thing to get rid of. Especially when the default skins have gone off the rails.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 8:03 pm

Because we see a QT based fusion next?
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 8:08 pm

I'm not surprised that the skins feature goes away. BMD probably wants to unify the look with other apps in their portfolio.

I wouldn't even mind a complete GUI rewrite in something like Qt. Thousands of hours of work have already been done by people to make sure it works well and is cross-platform... while Fusion's current UI has a limited amount of widgets and has rendering issues (whenever I drag the divider between the left and right view some other part of the interface starts flickering, for example). With Qt, people could also re-use code, panels, widgets or dialogs they wrote for other apps in their pipeline (Nuke, Maya and Houdini...).
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 8:09 pm

michael vorberg wrote:Because we see a QT based fusion next?


what I meant was enjoy it before the exploit is removed!
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 8:09 pm

michael vorberg wrote:Because we see a QT based fusion next?


LOL, you beat me to it. ;)
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 8:10 pm

Rony Soussan wrote:exploit


:o
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 10:26 pm

Exploit?

Please tell me BMD is not going to be a company that fights against users who add value to their software. The good companies embrace the mods/hack, or user-generated content. They don't alienate their users when they contribute something to the community that other users want at no profit to themselves.

And, Hi, Rony.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 10:36 pm

Joe Laffey wrote:Exploit?

Please tell me BMD is not going to be a company that fights against users who add value to their software. The good companies embrace the mods/hack, or user-generated content. They don't alienate their users when they contribute something to the community that other users want at no profit to themselves.

And, Hi, Rony.

Honestly, the skin system always seemed like it could have worked better. . I would be in favor of a BMD redesign of the interface over retaining the legacy skin system that was there, and if they did redesign it, I would obviously hope that they had the foresight to build in some customization options in the new ui.
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Re: Fusion UI

PostFri Feb 20, 2015 10:43 pm

Oh, I agree the skin system is not the best. I always tended to use the default simply because the UI for changing skins was horrible (and I liked the default).

I rather like the UI, honestly. I much prefer it over the flat junk in, say, IOS 8. Buttons should indeed look like buttons to some degree, not just words. I also MUCH prefer text buttons over icons. LightWave, XSI, Max to some degree all know that text buttons are the most efficient.

I would say I want the opposite of an Apple product. I want function over form. Form can follow the function, but function is most important.... and no damned icons!

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