-> BRAW file converter?

Given the state of things between Apple and RED putting the kibosh on ProRes RAW, is there any likelihood of BMD making a way of _CREATING_ BRAW files from DNG or other proprietary RAW file sources? One that can also be used in Capture One, Lightroom, After Effects, etc.? To end the tyranny of DNG?

I don't think so. It's camera specific.

I don't think so. It's camera specific.

Generic camera emulation will solve this. DNG is also camera specific in this sense by the way, and so is cineform raw. Doesn't stop from encoding to them from other formats.

BRAW is not a "true" RAW format. Unlike the case with DNG, a conversion to BRAW would cause a loss of information, not only due to the compression.

BRAW is not a "true" RAW format. Unlike the case with DNG, a conversion to BRAW would cause a loss of information, not only due to the compression.

Same is valid for any form of lossy compressed raw like .R3D 4:1 or ARRIRAW which is also logged from 16bits to 12 bits.

BRAW is not a "true" RAW format. Unlike the case with DNG, a conversion to BRAW would cause a loss of information, not only due to the compression.

Same is valid for any form of lossy compressed raw like .R3D 4:1 or ARRIRAW which is also logged from 16bits to 12 bits.

There will be a loss and there will be a "color space" / CFA change from the original DNG / ProRes RAW to Blackmagic RAW. Question is, will this loss be acceptable for the targeted use of the converted file, and what can we do to minimize it?

[CaptainHook]

there will be a "color space" / CFA change from the original DNG / ProRes RAW to Blackmagic RAW.

Blackmagic RAW clips from our cameras are still in native sensor space/sensor RGB without white balancing, and converted to the destination gamut during decode same as we do for cDNG.

Blackmagic RAW clips from our cameras are still in native sensor space/sensor RGB without white balancing, and converted to the destination gamut during decode same as we do for cDNG.

But : https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicraw

Images are encoded using a custom non‑linear 12‑bit space

Images are encoded using a custom non‑linear 12‑bit space

Same as all current RAW formats except X-OCN

Didn't the new Video Assists add BRAW recording options? That is outside of the camera... does that only work with BM cameras? I am guessing so.. but even so, how does my BMPCC4K or Ursa Mini or whatever send the BRAW data out of the camera so the new Assist can record it in BRAW? Was that part of a firmware update to the cameras that now allows it to be sent over HDMI? Or is it only for cameras with SDI output?

I don't think so. It's camera specific.

It doesn't have to be at all. Such a functionality could be written by BM if they wish, but I don't think it will ever happen. Whatever happens in camera can happen outside it if there is camera metadata provided with RAW video data. I would actually prefer if eg. de-nosing would be made optional (even for a price of bigger files).

[CaptainHook]

Blackmagic RAW clips from our cameras are still in native sensor space/sensor RGB without white balancing, and converted to the destination gamut during decode same as we do for cDNG.

But : https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicraw

Images are encoded using a custom non‑linear 12‑bit space

That refers to it not being linear or log encoded (our DNGs are log encoded in sensor space). "Colour space" refers to both gamut and gamma together (although Resolve uses the term JUST for gamut) so with the gamma being 'custom' it is being referred to in that link as a custom space so that people understand its not 12bit linear or log but something different, the gamut is native sensor RGB though.

Thanks everyone for the high-quality responses. I'd love to hear from a BMD engineer whether it could/will be done?

[CaptainHook]

In general we don't comment on potential future releases sorry.

In general we don't comment on potential future releases sorry.

And that worked out pretty well for BMD, all the recent releases with normal delivery times where a great succes.