Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Compos

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Ben Carlson

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Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Compos

PostFri Dec 07, 2018 6:23 pm

Hi All,

Just discovered that in a 1080p50 Media Composer 2018.9 project, the Blackmagic Mini Monitor device outputs 720p50 on the HDMI output. I found no way to force it to output 1080i50 instead.

I understand it will not support 1080p50, but why does it downconvert to 720p50 instead of 1080i50 ???
The connected monitor (TV set) accepts anything up to 1080p60 and 1080i50 projects output 1080i50 just fine.
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Re: Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Com

PostSat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 pm

Must be a problem in Avid, since I can output in Resolve just fine, both in 1080p25 or 1080i50.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Com

PostSat Dec 08, 2018 6:23 pm

Uli Plank wrote:Must be a problem in Avid, since I can output in Resolve just fine, both in 1080p25 or 1080i50.

I can also output 1080p25 and 1080i50 from a corresponding project.
The problem is the output from a 1080p50 project.
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Re: Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Com

PostSat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 pm

Ben Carlson wrote:I can also output 1080p25 and 1080i50 from a corresponding project.
The problem is the output from a 1080p50 project.

Not that suprising.. The Mini Monitor and Mini Recorder do not support 1080P50/60 ;)

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Re: Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Com

PostSun Dec 09, 2018 5:45 am

I can play from a timeline in DR with 1080p50 just fine, both to 1080p25 or 1080i50. The frame rate under "Playback" in the settings will be shown as 25 then.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Com

PostSun Dec 09, 2018 10:21 am

Uli Plank wrote:I can play from a timeline in DR with 1080p50 just fine, both to 1080p25 or 1080i50. The frame rate under "Playback" in the settings will be shown as 25 then.

Thanks for clarification...I'll see with Avid
DR Studio 18.1.4 Win10Pro 22H2 19045.3448 i7-8850H 2.6GHz - 32GB RAM;
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Re: Mini Monitor downscales 1080p50 to 720p50 with Media Com

PostThu Dec 13, 2018 4:25 pm

BTW, with a 1080p/25 Media Composer (PC/Windows) project, I can choose between 1080p and 1080PsF for the SDI output, but I have no such choice for the HDMI output (and I see the output is then 1080i50, while I would hope to be able to have 1080p25 (or PsF); in Desktop video setup, the 'Default video standard' is set to 1080p25).
Is that by design or also a "Avid MC limitation" ?
DR Studio 18.1.4 Win10Pro 22H2 19045.3448 i7-8850H 2.6GHz - 32GB RAM;
nVidia Quadro P2000 4 GB (532.09)
OS,Library,Project: 1TB SSD - Cache & src media files: 500GB NVMe
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