ATEM Mini Pro USB recording time ?

For how long can the ATEM Mini Pro record to a 1TB SSD, say at 1080p @ 25?

Will the video be split up into multiple files?

Yes .. It can record into 1-4 disks .. and swap from one to another .. automaticaly , or manualy .. look at video .. they show it there ..

I have seen the video Roman, thanks.

But there is no information regarding file sizes.
How big would a one hour 1080p@25 video file be in MB for example.

it's h264.. so expect LOOOOOONNNG

How big would a one hour 1080p@25 video file be in MB for example.

Im not sure , if U can set the quality .. Size depends from it .. But as Daniel said .. It will be veeeery loooong Especially on Harddisks ..

Well . . . an exact data-rate would be more helpful.

The data rate would be similar for most prosumer video cameras that record h264 format. But having a exact data rate from BMD would be nice.
Cheers

[Gary Adams]

The exact data rates are user selectable and are listed in the manual. If streaming and recording at the same time, the data rates will be the same. The manual is available on the web site.

Regards, Gary

Thanks Gary, should have checked that first.
Cheers

Thanks Gary,
it was not clear to me that the streaming data-rates are exactly those of the USB recording.
But that makes a lot of sense, this way the ATEM Mini Pro does not have to encode twice.

The exact data rates are user selectable and are listed in the manual.

There is some information about data rates on Page 35, but they only refer to HyperDeck and streaming. Does this apply to USB recording as well?
*(Nevermind, saw that it is.)

Well as soon the first people receive their Mini pro and hook up a harddrive, they will see how much recording time there is in the Multiview.. So just wait it out and in the next 2 weeks you will see more info about this..

Since there seems to be only one place to set the H.264 encoding quality (in the streaming Output tab of the ATEM Control Panel), I believe this means that the ATEM Mini Pro only has a single H.264 encoding engine internally. So the same H.264 encoding quality and data rate will be used for both streaming and recording.

This means that you probably need to be careful about selecting the HyperDeck encoding quality settings if you plan on live streaming since the data rate is fairly high. Unless you have a very fast internet upload speed, the HyperDeck settings should mostly just be used when you intend to record locally to a USB drive, but not stream out over the internet.

In terms of recording times, the HyperDeck record rates are documented for each frame rate in the HyperDeck manual. Based on these, here is an estimate of the record times on a 1 TB drive at 1080p25:

• HyperDeck High 1080p25 (40 Mb/s = 18 GB/hr): 55 hours per TB
• HyperDeck Medium 1080p25 (25 Mb/s = 11 GB/hr): 88 hours per TB
• HyperDeck Low 1080p25 (11 Mb/s = 5 GB/hr): 202 hours per TB

The ATEM Mini manual isn't quite as specific about the data rates for particular resolutions using the Streaming presets, but it sounds like the lower end of the range is used for lower frame rates (up to 1080p30) and the higher end of the data rate range are used for high frame rates (1080p50 or 1080p60). Which would mean that the record times for the Streaming presets look something like this:

• Streaming High 1080p25 (6 Mb/s = 2.7 GB/hr): 370 hours per TB
• Streaming Medium 1080p25 (4.5 Mb/s = 2 GB/hr): 494 hours per TB
• Streaming Low 1080p25 (3 Mb/s = 1.35 GB/hr): 740 hours per TB

For both the HyperDeck and Streaming presets, the data rates for high frame rate video 1080p50/60 are about 50% higher than for lower frame rate video (1080p25/30 or 1080i) at the same quality preset.

The most recent update for the HyperDeck Mini updated the maximum clip length before rolling over to a new file (Grant mentioned in the video introduction that you can record for at least 3 hours, maybe longer at some resolutions, before it rolls over the recording into a second file). Since it sounds like the HyperDeck and ATEM Mini Pro are using the same H.264 encoding implementation internally, I would expect that the ATEM Mini Pro would behave the same way when recording using the HyperDeck quality presets.

Thats bad if encoding engine is only one .. For record U need highest quality and for stream u want low/lowest quality , resp. bitrate ..
Second bad is , that U cannot record into harddisk and simultaneously send program via usb to OBS in computer for highquality streaming ..

Thats bad if encoding engine is only one .. For record U need highest quality and for stream u want low/lowest quality , resp. bitrate ..
Second bad is , that U cannot record into harddisk and simultaneously send program via usb to OBS in computer for highquality streaming ..

If it is ALL so bad, Just buy a bigger Atem and all hardware externally!! What do you expect for that pricepoint Keep it real and stop bitching what the products cant do..

Als why not just pull the USB into the computer for streaming and let it record there.. OBS and VMIX are MORE then capable to record to an external harddrive in high quality while streaming in low quality...

Think in solutions instead of telling what what is wrong about the product.. It has it's purposes and it never will fit to all customer needs.. No product does..

Daniel : Im just loughly thinking .. BEcause it was not seen in video obout AMP .. Im not hating this product .. Its great for people , who can use it .. But all things must be clear ..

Daniel : Im just loughly thinking .. BEcause it was not seen in video obout AMP .. Im not hating this product .. Its great for people , who can use it .. But all things must be clear ..

Understood Roman, but i think Daniel is right (maybe a little harsh in tone though) You need to be realistic at the price point and understand the huge value the ATEM Mini Pro offers even with its restrictions. If it doesn't meet your needs then ther are other options up the food chain.

I think the next Atem TV is probably going to synthesize DNA from the Mini.

$1500-2000.

Media players, direct streaming, usb record, camera control, etc.

Let’s be real though, when the Mini was released, the unwashed masses cried out in unison “multiview”. Six months later it’s a real product. This is a curious thread to be hyper critical of feedback.

Good Luck

No, feedback is good Howard, I am with you on this.
Cheers

As far as I understand, there is only one encoder in the Atem Mini Pro. If a live stream is created through Atem itself, then we can record through usb only with the same bitrate. And if you do a live stream through Ethernet and a laptop, for example, OBS, then can we set the maximum recording quality via USB? And can a live stream and Atem software control work simultaneously?

Makc :
U can stream via ethernet .. Using builded encoder .. And then U can record into USB disk , same H264 , same bitrate .. U cant send program via USB into computer , because USB is in HOST mode .. All without computer ..

Second model is :
U can stream via ethernet .. Using builded encoder .. U NOT RECORD into USB disk .. USB is sending program feed into computer .. For example OBS .. And u can setup OBS to stream to secondary destination with different bitrate .. And setup record to disk , with another bitrate too .. But this is made by computer .. U need fine graphics card , or strong CPU ..