Using older switcher panels with ATEM

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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostSun Sep 28, 2014 6:12 am

This short video is on using the GVG control panel to live control the AUX BUSS outputs.



The greatest thing about these horrible video's I make discussing the GVG control of the ATEM is that it helps me to remember how to use it!!!
It does so much, there should be a University Degree available.

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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostSat Oct 04, 2014 11:12 pm


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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostWed Jan 28, 2015 8:31 am

How can I get one of these?!
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostThu Jan 29, 2015 2:47 am

I'm sure Baz will PM you. The panels work great.
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostSun Oct 14, 2018 8:40 am

Resurrecting a really old thread.

Does anyone have details of the rs422 protocol sony use between their mixer panels and frame ?

I have a BKDS-2010 on the way and would be interested in trying to create a protocol converter between the 38.4k rs422 and atem ethernet protocol.
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostTue Jun 11, 2019 6:35 pm

From what I saw, the BDSK-2010 has an RS-422 connection, but I do not know if it uses the GVG100 protocol (which I do not believe), because the Atem Television Studio HD has an RS-422 connector compatible with GVG100.

I'm getting a BDSK-2010 in the next few days, and I'll try. But perhaps with Arduino it should be instrumented or a protocol translator system to GVG100 to use the RS-422 connector, or directly as you present a protocol translator system from Sony to Atem Ethernet Protocol
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostTue Nov 17, 2020 11:50 am

Has anyone had any luck re-using a BKDS-2010?
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostTue Nov 17, 2020 3:43 pm

Doing a show a couple years ago in Kiev, the local vendor had a Sony panel controlling the Atem. Couldn’t tell you how or even which models, only that I’ve seen it. When a camera was selected an audible click was reported from the panel. I don’t remember any clicky Sony panels so there was likely some savagery involved.

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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostMon May 08, 2023 12:53 pm

k0ntrast wrote:Has anyone had any luck re-using a BKDS-2010?


Epic refloat here :D

I recently found an extremely unexpensive BKDS-2010 while browsing ebay. My intention is to make it interface OBS, but all the work already done reverse engineering the Sony protocol can also be of use for controlling any other software (and/or hardware). As of today, I've been able of decoding most of the commands sent by the controller to the "virtual switcher" (my software) and sending appropiate reponses to them, which makes it already useable. Now the task is translating all of that to OBS websockets (put here your favourite protocol).

What works at this point:

- Selecting PST/PGM/KEY/AUX sources.
- Setting high/low tallies on the board.
- Selecting wipe type/trans rate/modifiers.
- Configuring next transition (KEY PRIOR/BKGD/MIX/WIPE/DME/etc.).
- DSK ON/OFF/PVW/MIX.
- Selecting MATTE params.
- Selecting KEY params.
- The T-BAR.
- Setting some parameters for MATTEs (Lum/Sat/Hue).
- Some other stuff here and there.

What doesn't work yet:
- Translation to an useable protocol (OBS/ATEM/vMix).
- Some of the params/knobs/controls of the board (work in progress, but there are dozens of them).
- Some "obscure" commands which I don't know what are supposed to do.
- Utility buses (not able yet of enabling them).
- User menus (same as utility buses).

What I'm not going to implement as of now:
- Learn, Recall, Registers, Event memory, etc. Lots of work and pretty much useless for me.

Now, I don't have access to the actual switcher (DVS-2000C) or any user manual to it (I found Installation and Maintenance manuals, but not the Operating one), so I have to imagine what every control is supposed to do or investigate it from manuals of other (more modern) models, so I'm pretty sure that there is stuff that I'm missing. On the other hand, the idea is not to perfectly mimic the operation of the original switcher, as the paradigm is very different these days (having precise control on mattes, keys, etc, from the controller is not really needed, as that can be done directly on the software), but more like a kind of "Stream Deck" with lots and lots more buttons that I can use in my setup.

The ultimate idea is to put everything in an Arduino and connect the controller through Ethernet, but haven't even started with this yet. For now, the RS422 interface is good enough for my purposes.

The software is still pretty much ugly, buggy and uncommented, but I'd be happy to talk to anyone interested in cooperating with the task. Feel free to contact me regarding the matter.

Best,

Miguel
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostTue May 09, 2023 4:02 pm

I’d certainly be interested in trying to do something useful with my panel.
Just need to find it !!!

I’d probably use either a raspberry pi or pico.

Would be interested in at least seeing the protocol so I can get started ( at least to confirm my panel is okay )
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostFri May 12, 2023 8:26 am

Andy Coulthurst wrote:I’d certainly be interested in trying to do something useful with my panel.
Just need to find it !!!

I’d probably use either a raspberry pi or pico.

Would be interested in at least seeing the protocol so I can get started ( at least to confirm my panel is okay )


That's great!!

I'm doing some housekeeping on the code, to make it more readable. Should have something "visible" in a few days. Will keep you posted.

Best
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Re: Using older switcher panels with ATEM

PostSun May 14, 2023 2:05 pm

Thanks - will go get my panel from storage ( aka the pile of projects I need time to finish )
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I actually found it from 5 years ago!
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