Two-men livestream setup

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Hindrik Raap

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Two-men livestream setup

PostThu Apr 13, 2017 9:24 am

Hi there!

For a while I am busy with a setup for our education. I already went over a lot of options in a previous topic, where I had to decide on hardware vs. software switching, hardware vs. software encoding etc. Let me briefly get summarise what the needs are.

- Portable live-streaming setup.
- Used for conferences, lectures, events etc.
- Streamed to YouTube and Facebook.
- User-friendly, as I would like students to operate with it in some situations.

My options so far
Based on this information, I am currently aiming towards the new ATEM TV studio in combination with a Mac Mini, and UltraStudio MiniRecorder. Another option would be the more expensive UltraStudio, software-based switching on a powerful MacPro by using MimoLive. The last option is a full-kit by Wirecast, although I don't really like their style compared to the slick use of MimoLive.


However, as the title mentions already, the setup needs to be able to be controlled by around 2 persons. In bigger occasions a full camera crew will be present, but not for standard conferences and lectures. I looked into http://ptzoptics.com, but I have no experience with them at all. It looks quite ok, and by this I should be able to stick to two people. Since those camera's can also be mounted on a tripod, it will definitely be portable.

Do you guys have any advise? I would love to control the camera's from a distance. How is this usually done? Maybe a higher resolution camera with face-tracking software instead of hardware would work as well. As long as the live-stream is dynamic and fun to watch, instead of only static footage of a few camera's.

All tips are welcome!
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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostThu Apr 13, 2017 10:01 am

I am in a similar situation where we do live events by two persons. For some events we add camera and operators. The standard set-up we use is the following:
I manage 2-3 remote cameras + BMD Micro Studio Camera 4K + 1-2 static cameras. One is right beside us FOH so we can frame it a little. All is switched on a BMD Production Switcher 4K including static graphics. PGM is sent to a recorder and to my colleague who uses PGM as a camera in QLab. He controls all advanced graphics and outputs to projectors. For streaming we output to a second MacBook Pro which only handles the streaming.

I manage basic audio too. We are busy but can definitely manage with this setup.

An advice on remote cameras: Don't go cheap! We used Sony top of the line cameras at first but they are not very user friendly in a live environment. I prefer Panasonic HE-130 or 120. Fantastic cameras and easy/fast to operate.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you want to discuss further!

Good luck!


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Hindrik Raap

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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostThu Apr 13, 2017 10:32 am

Thank you for your reply Marcus!

What do you use to control the cameras? Does it integrate with the ATEM software? Or do you have a remote controller to still position the camera's. My "dream" would be to connect any remote camera to the ATEM, Wirecast or MimoLive and be able to set presets. I know MimoLive supports this but only with Axis camera's, who initially develop security cams.

You mention "Don't go cheap", while I completely agree with you, I know the executive board of the school doesn't. Is there a better option concerning remote camera's that are more affordable? How does this look (https://www.axis.com/nl/nl/products/axis-v5914)?

By the way, QLab looks amazing! Definitely going to look into that one for other purposes.
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Hindrik Raap

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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostSun Apr 16, 2017 11:45 am

More tips?

I'm especially interested in PTZ camera's
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Markus Leodolter

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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostMon Apr 17, 2017 7:46 am

We use 2 Panasonic HE120 together with a Panasonic HPX250 (close of the presenter) and a Sony NEX EA50 (for wideangle of the studio.)

The HE 120 are controlled by a Panasonic AW-RP50 by one operator. You can set presets there and also change the setting if necessary - and it is if you are filming people . They move around!

One operator controls the He120, the other one switches between the cameras and play out short shots.

I wouldn´t recommend working only with presets to be more flexible.
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Markus Leodolter

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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostMon Apr 17, 2017 7:51 am

You even can use Panasonic HE60 or HE40 if there´s enough light.
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RichardJolly

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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostMon Apr 17, 2017 8:06 am

The really low cost option? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1223151-REG/bescor_mp_1e_motorized_pan_head_with.html?sts=pi

We use either a BMD Micro Studio Camera with a 14-42mm or 45-175mm lens, with zoom etc remote from the ATEM software, or a Pansonic HDC-xxx camcorder with remote zoom via a consumer infraned wireless extender. The latter is better in low light, though it can be tricky to keep the camera seeing the infrared and you have no remote iris.

The very simple Bescor remote control lead I have extended with Cat5 cable and tested up to 90 metres.

We have even moved the Bescor head in vision on occasion, for instance adjusting for a speaker walking up and down the stage, but I wouldn't recommend it. For our conference purposes, however, it is more than capable to giving what we need. We typically place it in the front row or on the edge of the stage at a conference and can quickly adjust to get a good angle on a row of panellists.
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Hindrik Raap

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Re: Two-men livestream setup

PostWed Apr 19, 2017 6:59 pm

What is so good about the Panasonic's. I mean they cost around 10k each, why should I use those ones instead of a 2k PTZoptics camera.

I need to pitch it, so I need some pro's and con's ;)

Thank you guys so far!

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