Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

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TJ McCormick

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Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

PostTue May 16, 2017 4:53 pm

I'm trying to decide whether or not to get a BMMCC or BMMSC for my multi camera rig. I purchased the ATEM TV Studio switcher. I usually shoot small breakout room type events, switching between camera(s) and computer content. I think the Cinema Camera option is much better for my situation, because it saves me from purchasing ISO record decks. Shading is usually not an issue, since it's mostly set and forget. If I understand the ATEM, I should be able to make small adjustments to paint and shade cameras with the ATEM interface. Would anyone suggest the Micro Cinemas or stay with the Micro Studios?
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Re: Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

PostTue May 16, 2017 10:33 pm

The Micro Cinema Camera will not respond to any of the painting or shading adjustments via the ATEM interface. These commands are sent over the SDI outputs from the ATEM and are received by the camera over its SDI input. But the Micro Cinema Camera of course has no SDI input.

The Micro Cinema Camera also has a fairly flat (low contrast) image by default, which is useful for cinema productions which will have lots of post-processing, color grading, and editing of the recorded video. A flat color profile can give more flexibility in tweaking the image in post.

However, in a live broadcast (without the benefit of post processing), this low contrast look may be less desirable.
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Re: Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

PostTue May 16, 2017 11:26 pm

So, ATEM doesn't change the actual image through the switcher, but changes the camera's paint settings? I also thought there was somewhere a lut was applied, maybe that was at the recorder end. I'm recording straight to Hyper Deck Studio Mini. I'm still leaning towards the cinema, but i like having more control over the camera. Any other thoughts??
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Re: Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

PostWed May 17, 2017 2:59 am

If you are live switching several cameras, you want the Micro Studio cameras, that is what they were designed for, and the cameras can be colur corrected to match via the ATEM CCU. Disadvantage, native ISO is 100/200, so more light is needed, but it can match the other BM Studio cameras. Advantage is the SDI in/out, no issue with cable runs up to 300-feet, depending on the HD/SDI cables being used

The Micro Cinema only has an HDMI out, designed for a monitor, so no HDMI cable runs over 15-feet, or you will need a SDI adapter. Also Using the Cinema camera only works, if all the cameras are the Micro Cinema or Pocket/BMCC cameras, and you can color correct and process the flat film log images in post to get the results you want. Advantage is the higher native ISO of 800, so works well with less light. Disadvantage is the HDMI output, limits cable runs.

So wich camera depends on your wanted end result and work flow you want to go with.
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Re: Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

PostWed May 17, 2017 6:23 am

TJ McCormick wrote:So, ATEM doesn't change the actual image through the switcher, but changes the camera's paint settings? I also thought there was somewhere a lut was applied, maybe that was at the recorder end. I'm recording straight to Hyper Deck Studio Mini. I'm still leaning towards the cinema, but i like having more control over the camera. Any other thoughts??


See this video for film look vs the video look. Obviously not the same cameras but will give you an idea of what to expect. The film look will be pretty much unusable without grading, I think.

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Re: Micro Cinema or Micro Studio with ATEM?

PostWed May 17, 2017 6:06 pm

You want to go with the Micro Studio. It has features specifically for studios such as tally, talkback and camera control. I'd advice though that you light your studio properly - especially in green screen situations . . . or get the fastest lens possible. It has 11 stops of dynamic range and the sensor is not great in low light.

Here it is in my studio and the end result from a weather forecast green room:

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