Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

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Phil Hadfield

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Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jul 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Has anyone got any of these units?

I am just wandering what the latency is like on these boxes.

If you have the 10G module installed can you use the 1G port to connect to another device. (Acting like a Switch).
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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jul 27, 2017 3:06 pm

Hello Phil. the latency is 35 lines in Low Latency Mode. It is 2 frames in Clean Switch Mode. Only one port can be used at a time. Hope that is helpful.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jul 27, 2017 3:24 pm

What bandwidth do the IP streams use

1.5G SDI = IP
3G SDI = IP
6G SDI = IP
12G SDI = IP

Also if you could use the other port this would allow network control of the endpoint Device (Projector / Camera)
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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jul 27, 2017 8:39 pm

Hello Phil. We use 4:1 Tico compression on everything.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jul 27, 2017 9:24 pm

Gary Adams wrote:Hello Phil. We use 4:1 Tico compression on everything.

Regards, Gary


Are you looking at creating a hdmi to ip module? Does the IP module work with multicast?




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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jul 27, 2017 10:47 pm

Yes, it works with multicast. There's a section on it in the Teranex manual (iirc) that is very informative.
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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostWed Nov 08, 2017 12:20 pm

Phil Hadfield wrote:
Are you looking at creating a hdmi to ip module? Does the IP module work with multicast?



+1 on this question please. Is this IP range going to be extended to include HDMI?

If so, I'm hoping it would include an in and out port on each unit so that all units can be changed between source/destination.
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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostWed Nov 08, 2017 10:53 pm

We will take this as a feature request.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostFri Nov 10, 2017 12:31 pm

The prototype was based on the Optical to HDMI unit. See here a photo of the video where Grant Patty announched the IP unit.

I wish you could buy a license or upgrade the firmware to inco-oporate this on the the whole Optical series of the teranex.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostTue Nov 28, 2017 1:06 pm

Gary Adams wrote:We will take this as a feature request.


Thanks Gary! While we're on feature requests then... if these units also had the ability to enable the 1G Ethernet network (for utility usage) whilst running the main video via fibre... you'd be really pushing the competition... This would allow an extra network sitting on top which could be used for all manner of connections - source and display control, ptz cameras, etc.

Presuming TICO leaves enough headroom within the 10G bandwidth of course.

Many thanks!
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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostWed Jan 10, 2018 1:02 pm

Are BlackMagic able to confirm whether the PTP clock on a network installation is an absolute requirement or just a recommendation? If it's a recommendation, what are the possible effects of not having this feature on the network switch?
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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostWed Jan 10, 2018 2:59 pm

Hello Chris. The PTP clock is not absolutely necessary. Without one, it may take some time, maybe up to a couple of minutes for the signal to lock in the system. This is not image latency but time when the signal is attached before it is locked. Having the PTP clock is highly recommended.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostWed Jan 10, 2018 3:06 pm

Thanks for the quick response Gary. Would this apply to the first unit in a videohub only - to establish itself as the master, or all subsequent units connected? and sources only? - I presume once they're on the system, they're on, so to speak and you can then switch at will? The PTP clock seems to be a tricky feature to specify on a switch - we're talking to a few manufacturers and it's one of the more elusive features.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostThu Jan 11, 2018 4:18 pm

Without the clock any connections will be slow. When moving forward in an IP infrastructure, the PTP clock is going to be quite necessary and is defined by SMPTE. The clock only has to come from one unit in the network like a router. Doesn't need to be in every switch. But in the short term just be patient when connecting a signal.

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Re: Teranex Mini IP Video 12G

PostSat Jan 13, 2018 12:12 am

Interesting stuff Gary - I've been reading up on the new SMPTE standards (2110). Is there a new release in the pipeline for BM due to this new standard? Is this the kind of thing that can be firmware updated in the current form of the Teranex mini or does it require a new chipset?

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