Church 3 Cam Setup

I am helping upgrade my church to a new HD setup for eventual streaming later this year. Like some help if possible. My skill sets are Residential and light Commercial Audio/Video. Broadcasting equipment is kind of foreign to me, but I know enough to get into trouble.

We currently have 2 AW-HE100 cams with upgraded SDI card. We are adding 1 AW-HE120 cam for a better image closer to the front.

I am thinking of running the three cameras into the ATEM 1 M/E Switcher/Console and then to a Decklink 4 Extreme Capture Card.

The computer (Mac Pro) will edit the feed, very little editing, then uploaded to Vimeo.

Do I need a Hyperdeck Studio Pro or will my Mac Pro suffice for the recording and editing. We will be offloading the edited file to off-site storage once edited and uploaded to Vimeo.

I apologize if anything sounds stupid, as I said I am new to this. If this is complete overkill, let me know that as well. We can scale back. We just want the best image quality possible.

Won't cover all your questions but worth looking at:

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Appreciate the reply. Checked all those links out, answered a few of my questions.

We have a MacPro currently we use for post. It's about 24 months old. Doesn't have USB 3.0 on board. Do I need the Decklink 4 capture card or can I get a high-quality copy from the USB 3.0 (with a 3.0 Card or Whatever). They won't mind upgrading to a newer Mac if it means we can just record directly to it.

Will it be the full 1080 signal?

Am I correct that I don't really need the Hyperdeck Studio Pro if we are capturing on the Mac?

Sorry for the newbie questions. I appreciate the help.

use Declink SDI ($300) for capturing in MAC PRO ..

use Declink SDI ($300) for capturing in MAC PRO ..

Even though I (will) have 3 cameras? Just by looking at the connection diagrams, it looks like I would need a card with more connections. I will have one feed from the board being switched, but I would like to keep a backup/permanent copy of all three feeds. I personally think this would be unnecessary (archiving all three feeds), but it's the functionality being requested.

Do you see any need for the Hyperdeck Studio that I'm not seeing?

Ohh .. If U need 3 feeds , than use 3x Declink SDI , or one DUO + single , or one QUAD , and U get 3 cameras + switched feed .. ATEM 1 have 3x AUX buses , so U can send out all 3 cameras directly ..

Dont forget , to encode/record 3-4 streams at one computer U need lot of CPU power .. or record uncompressed video , then U need very quick storage (SSD is very quick , but small) .. May be PRORES is OK .. I was never tested more feeds to encode/capture at one MAC PRO ..

Thanks a lot for your reply and help.

The USB 3.0 won't work with a mac pro in any way that I know of.

You'll need to pair an AUX bus sdi output with an sdi input for each camera you want to capture independently. Unless you really really need it I would skip the independent recording for now or else just record on camera and collect the footage later.

I don't know what your position is in the church but I find I get requests all the time from people that don't realize the costs involved with their "simple" request. As a side note you should also ask any non blackmagic questions you wind up with over on churchtechleaders.org

Glad the links helped

Dont forget , to encode/record 3-4 streams at one computer U need lot of CPU power .. or record uncompressed video , then U need very quick storage (SSD is very quick , but small) .. May be PRORES is OK .. I was never tested more feeds to encode/capture at one MAC PRO ..

If you have a MacPro and want to capture 3-4 streams, as suggested the quadlink is probably your best option. However you will need plenty of RAM and if you don't already have a RAID operating on the MacPro, you will need some sort of external device.

I have captured 2 stream to a MacPro previously (Decklink SDI and Multibridge Express). Was set up with a RAID 1 for 2 drives for the operating system and RAID 0 for the other 2 drives for the capture. Also had 12 cores and 32GB RAM. Each stream was captured to a different folder; it does not work if you capture to the same one. Worked pretty well but that was also on an older MacPro (2009). So technically can be done but will need to almost max out the MacPro. Was not using ProRes but was doing real time compression from Apple Intermediate. can't remember what I was compressing it to!
Also had the machine running Parallels and using it for internet sharing. Had 2 graphics cards in it pushing out 4 screens (For a pro level sport setting for a team)and was using Apple Remote Desktop into it as well to control it. Was also doing file transfer by AFP and to firewire/USB drives. Did find that I had to manage the loads of file transfers or there were issues!

I don't know what your position is in the church but I find I get requests all the time from people that don't realize the costs involved with their "simple" request. As a side note you should also ask any non blackmagic questions you wind up with over on churchtechleaders.org

If you can capture on each individual camera, probably a much better option for backup.

If you do still want to capture the 3-4 streams, unless you get a windows tower that is highly specd in terms of RAM, RAID, processor etc, for a mac version you would probably be best with 1 mac mini per stream, fusion drive, i7 processors, max RAM. All networked so you can control the capture start/stop
As stated, by other think this is overkill