Problem with Black Levels and Micro Converters

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Oliver Steffens

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Problem with Black Levels and Micro Converters

PostThu Nov 30, 2017 2:55 pm

So i have a rather big problem which is the following:

The Source is a PC or Console which is sending a Signal through an HDMI Splitter -> HDMI-SDI Micro Converter-> ATEM 4k and then captured with BM Media Express.

With this we have a huge shift in the black levels as u can see in the attached file

Does anyone got an idea where this shift could come from? We already tried it with JUST the HDMI-SDI Converter but the problem still occured.

Kind Regards
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Steinar H. Gunderson

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Re: Problem with Black Levels and Micro Converters

PostFri Dec 01, 2017 1:36 pm

My guess: You got a conversion from RGB to Y'CbCr somewhere in your chain; either because your PC negiotiated one with the converter (over HDMI), or because the converter did it yourself. (SDI is generally 4:2:2 Y'CbCr whereas PC output is typically 4:4:4 RGB, although there are exceptions.) In the process, I guess something mixed up limited vs. full range Y'CbCr; ie., the Y'CbCr signal was sent as 16–235 but interpreted as 0–255. This means not only black level is off, but also white level.
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Oliver Steffens

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Re: Problem with Black Levels and Micro Converters

PostFri Dec 01, 2017 4:16 pm

Any way of outputting ycbcr from a PC?
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Steinar H. Gunderson

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Re: Problem with Black Levels and Micro Converters

PostMon Dec 04, 2017 6:22 pm

It will vary with the GPU, the drivers and the OS. NVIDIA can send Y'CbCr from most cards, I'm fairly certain; less sure about e.g. Intel.
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Re: Problem with Black Levels and Micro Converters

PostMon Dec 04, 2017 6:47 pm

With NVIDIA this is pretty simple, see attachment.
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