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I'm really sad. I just bought two units of Hyperdeck Studio Mini for the new H264 recording format only to find out it only support progressive. Watch the Grant's NAB video again, he did not mention this. Was at Singapore Broadcast Asia last week and funny thing was, the guy I spoke to did not know of the H264 update. Same goes to our local reseller.
Water under bridge now, my question is, will there be an firmware update for it to support interlace format? I honestly hope Blackmagic Design people can give me an answer.
Regards,
Ed

Replying a post to this because I want to know the same question. I need H.264 support for INTERLACED. Please!

Interlaced is not supported (yet) And nobody knows if it will ever be implemented and when..

But the best way is to collect all those people that are running a interlaced setup and NEED to record interlaced.. The more voices, more change it will be pushed up the list...

So explain why do you guys need H264 Interlaced more over a Codec like Proress or DNxHD with there bulky file formats?? I'm curious what people want to use it for. As it is lower quality then the heavy codecs..

Myself i think it would be very handy to have a H264 file that can be played directly on a SmartTV and send easily by WeTransfer without going over the 2GB limit.
To have some file that i can hand out almost directly to the customer after copying it to a small USB stick..
Very handy for longer videos like church ceromonies or sementaries to hand out to the customer. But also for long haul recordings like Visual Radio productions that are streamed to internet but you want some backup recording of the event. Which does not need to be high editing quality.

Hi Everyone,

we also use Interlace. also all our in India Mostly Videographer using Interlace.


Thanks
Dhiraj

Vote +1
1080i is stil used a lot. I had to record 4 days of festival last weekend for a TV broadcaster. The BM Duplicator was used instead. As it has interlaced support.

marc.colemont wrote: The BM Duplicator was used instead. As it has interlaced support.

Then i even wonder more why the Interlaced mode is not supported by the hyperdeck mini's.. While they have the software for that under control and already working in a different device..

Only problem that i can think off is processor capacity.. But hey if Progressive works.. Why not interlaced..... It is still parsing a frame from the buffer to a codec wrapper.. And if that frame contains half the image or the full image should not matter that much you would think.....

We use interlaced at a university. We have lots of lectures to that we record and I would love to send people the video immediately after the lecture instead of having to transcode

I have one too.
What a shame I haven't been able to use it as a player.
Records ok but cannot take customer content and play it out.
Shame !!!

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Sadly, there are still people using cameras that only suppor 1080I output... That people wont be able to record in H264 and will need to record in highly demanding space formats, when they dont need to have a high quality recording.

Pascale Paris wrote:I have one too.
What a shame I haven't been able to use it as a player.
Records ok but cannot take customer content and play it out.
Shame !!!

Very good possible to use the Hyperdeck as a playback device.. But all hyperdecks are very very picky on the codec and layout used!!

You have to render the fileformat in exact the same codec specs as the recorded files. Otherwise it wont work.. It is not VLC media player with over 200 codec support to playback everything..

For me is very necessary H264 codec in interlace recording.

I would love to have interlaced as well

i live/work in one of the largest countries in the world, where the predominant broadcast format is 1080i. if that's not a market you can serve, what is?

Well, yes and no, population wise, the US is only the third largest county in the world, China being number one, followed by India.

As for 1080i being the US Broadcast standard, only two of the three major networks are 1080i, the third is 720p, and as UHD broadcasting replaces SD and HD, everything will go progressive, as UHS is progressive only. Most digital cable systems are 720p or 1080p. So I would say 1080i is not the majority Broadcast standard in the US, nor is the US a majority Broadcast market world wide, employing NTSC standards.
Cheers

Here in the Netherlands, All TV stations run 1080i.. 1080i is still the most used broadcast standard today..

So i still think 1080i should be included on the hyperdeck mini.. Or it will be a discussion that never ends...

I want, very fast H264 interlace format. I pay and demand it format naw.

+1 for interlaced. 90% of our work is 1080i50. the h.264 recording function is useless as long as it does not support interlaced. considering a switch to datavideo h.264 recorders at this point. they have some interesting stuff coming up at IBC.

cheers, daniel

Please add h264 on 1080i

Again BMD shots itself in the foot , like with many other BMD products ( Decklink quatro being typical ).
The Hyperdeck Mini is insufficiently developed and supported. But this is unacceptable : not to record in interlaced for h264 but it records interlaced in Pro Res or DNxHD at 145 Mbps. Crazy, insn't it ?

We too are waiting for 108i support before buying this H264 recorder.....

Blackmagic
Please hear us your customer, in your next update > please include 1080i for .H264 for recording.
Many Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Thanks for the H264 support but definitely need interlaced H264 recording as all our devices can't handle progressive format, we switched all devices to interlaced.

please new firmware update !

+1 for interlaced (50i) H.264 recording.
In the UK broadcast world, 50i is still king.

+1. This would make my life 100x easier.

Ok seeing the 'UK guys' are uniting
I'll +1 also, for 1080i/50 recordings in H264 on the mini.

+1 for h264 recording ,
can believe I can not even record on my hyperdeck for the function I bought the unit..,.!?

I though the file inside is only progressive unti I noticed myself.

Please BM FW feature update on this!

Another +1 for 1080i50 its pretty much the default res in the UK

Of course i am totally IN !

What are you thinking about BlackMagic designers !?

1080i is obviously a way to go !

thanks

I was disappointed when I found out that you couldn't record H264 in the interlaced format.

But I quickly got over it when I purchased the Blackmagic Design UpDownCross that works perfectly at a great price. $155.

I convert the 1080i to 1080p and record H264. I use this as a Master recorder as well as other Hyperdeck Mini Recorders for iso recordings of a clean feed or individual cameras.

Not a bad workaround for the price.

kc

The Video Devices Pix E5/7 supports interlaced and h.264 recording, as of FW 3.0-3.5. FW 3.0 added h.264 recording, and the manual listens all interlaced resolutions as being supported. I have not tried to record a 1080i signal to h.264, but will give this a go and see what happens.

I have discovered, Apple Quick Time does not suport h.264 interlaced recording, along with CBP BP or Pro HiP, not sure which h.264 stsndard BMD is using, which might be part of the issue providing h.264 recording for interlaced signals.
Cheers

Another inexpensive solution is the Hauppauge PVR rocket. It is a game recorder but I've used it as a stand alone H264 recorder with my ATEM and an SDI-HDMI converter. Works with a USB stick or externally powered HD.

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products ... ocket.html

kc

BMD also has a stand alone h.264 endorder, which requires a computer to run Media Express to record to.
It also,appears to support 1080i50/60 encoding, so not sure why the New Hyperdeck Mini can not
Cheers

+1 for interlaced 1080!

Guys, if you really want 1080i support then you have do to more than just post a request for it here.

Use the support email form here which will be sent to BMD support and goes into their ticket system:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/contact/email

If they see the demand then there might be a chance someone from support will talk to developers directly for this.

Robert Niessner wrote:If they see the demand then there might be a chance someone from support will talk to developers directly for this.

I have talked to the developer of the Hyperdeck mini directly. And while he may not say to much. He really understands why interlaced is so important. But there are some difficulties to overcome that i can not discuss here. We can only hope that behind the scenes they are fixing it. And yes shoot a ticket will help speed the process to let product managers be aware that you need this. But they really have the give the green light to the programmer to spend time on it.

I need 1080i, my entire live events setup is 1080i, I bought this device because I want H.264 to have a small file to upload immediately after the event. I am using this in conjunction with the Hyperdeck Shuttle which is capturing my high quality copy. I will put in a request as well.

We require interlaced across our entire public access television facility. We are forced to deliver interlaced to our local Comcast head end for distribution over the local cable television system. This means our original productions, edit systems, media asset management system, broadcast servers, and live studios all output interlaced video.

The thing is we're not the only facility like this. There are hundreds of PEG (public, educational, and government) access entities in the US who are all likely to be in the same situation. Reach out to any of the turnkey broadcast system vendors like Telvue, Tightrope Media Systems, Leightronix, Playbox, CASTUS, etc, and ask them how many PEG customers they have who use interlaced video as their principle house format.