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List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/18

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:34 pm
by Kevin Norris
I have an on going problem on remote facilities in the US. Most mobile facilities are currently built to work with 3G-SDI Level A signals. More and more smaller vendors trying to integrate with mobile units are bringing us BMD products. A lot of which has issues with Level A. Kinda the reason most truck carry AJA products and not BMD.

Anyone have a list of BMD with Level A support? Or a list of BMD products lacking Level A support?

Thanks
Kevin

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:38 pm
by Xtreemtec
I think we should build one ourselfs.. There is no known list of A /B compatibility..

Wanted to make such a list for my own BMD gear as well.. Because i do have a lot of BMD gear and run a lot on 3G..

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:24 pm
by Dave Del Vecchio
To start things off, here is my understanding of the 3G SDI support of the Mini Converters and Micro Converters:

Micro Converter HDMI to SDI - Output: Level A & B
Micro Converter SDI to HDMI - Input: Level A & B
Micro Converter BiDirectional SDI/HDMI - Input: Level A & B, Output: Level A & B

Mini Converter SDI to HDMI - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 7.0.7)
Mini Converter SDI to HDMI 4K - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 7.0.8)
Mini Converter SDI to HDMI 6G - Input: Level A & B
Mini Converter HDMI to SDI - Output: Level B
Mini Converter HDMI to SDI 4K - Output: Level B
Mini Converter HDMI to SDI 6G - Output: Level A & B

Mini Converter SDI to Analog - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 7.0.8)
Mini Converter SDI to Analog 4K - Input: Level B
Mini Converter Analog to SDI - Output: HD SDI only (no 3G SDI)

Mini Converter SDI to Audio - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 7.0.7)
Mini Converter SDI to Audio 4K - Input: Level A & B
Mini Converter Audio to SDI - Input: Level B, Output: matches input
Mini Converter Audio to SDI 4K - Input: Level B, Output: matches input

Mini Converter Optical Fiber - Input: Level B, Output: matches input
Mini Converter Optical Fiber 4K - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 7.1), Output: matches input
Mini Converter Optical Fiber 12G - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input

Mini Converter Quad SDI to HDMI 4K - Input: Level B
Mini Converter SDI Distribution - Input: Level B, Output: matches input
Mini Converter SDI Distribution 4K - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 7.0.9), Output: matches input
Mini Converter SDI Multiplex 4K - Input: Level B, Output: Level B

Mini Converter UpDownCross - Input: Level A & B: Output: HD SDI (matches input in distribution mode)
Mini Converter UpDownCross HD - Input: Level A & B, Output: Level A & B

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:29 am
by Xtreemtec
Atem 1M/E old style - No 3G
Atem 2M/E old style - No 3G
Atem TVS old style - No 3G

Atem Production Studio 4K - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)
Atem 1M/E Production Studio 4K - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)
Atem 2M/E Production Studio 4K - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)
Atem 4M/E Broadcast Studio 4K - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)
Atem Television Studio HD - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)
Atem Television Studio HD Pro - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)
Atem Television Studio Pro 4K - Level A & B (Settable in Atem software)


When we have all products in the list. I will also put this info into the FAQ section as reference to everyone ;)

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:25 am
by Jack Fairley
UltraStudio 4K - Level A & B (as of 10.9.5)
DeckLink 4K Extreme - Level A & B (as of 10.8.2)
DeckLink Studio 4K - Level A & B (as of 10.6.8)
DeckLink SDI 4K - Level A & B (as of 10.6.6)

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:07 pm
by Dave Del Vecchio
Here are the Teranex Mini Converters:

Teranex Mini SDI to HDMI 12G - Input: Level A & B
Teranex Mini HDMI to SDI 12G - Output: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.1.1)

Teranex Mini SDI to Analog 12G - Input: Level A & B
Teranex Mini Analog to SDI 12G - Output: HD SDI, 6G or 12G (no 3G output)

Teranex Mini SDI to Audio 12G - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input
Teranex Mini Audio to SDI 12G - Input: Level B, Output: matches input

Teranex Mini 12G-SDI to Quad SDI - Input: Level A & B, Output: Level A & B
Teranex Mini Quad SDI to 12G-SDI - Input: Level A & B, Output: Level A & B
Teranex Mini SDI Distribution 12G - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input

Teranex Mini Optical to HDMI 12G - Input: Level A & B
Teranex Mini HDMI to Optical 12G - Output: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.1.1)
Teranex Mini Optical to Analog 12G - Input: Level A & B
Teranex Mini Analog to Optical 12G - Output: HD SDI, 6G or 12G (no 3G output)
Teranex Mini Optical to Audio 12G - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input
Teranex Mini Audio to Optical 12G - Input: Level B, Output: matches input

Teranex Mini IP Video 12G - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:17 am
by Xtreemtec
Dave Del Vecchio wrote:Here are the Teranex Mini Converters:
Teranex Mini Analog to SDI 12G - Output: HD SDI, 6G or 12G (no 3G output)

Teranex Mini Analog to Optical 12G - Output: HD SDI, 6G or 12G (no 3G output)


Dave i'm pretty suprised by those Analog units not being able to do 3G.. But do HD and 6/12G... :?
Feels Weird.. But true..

SDI Video Standards

525i59.94 NTSC, 625i50 PAL
720p50, 720p59.94, 720p60
2160p25, 2160p29.97, 2160p50, 2160p59.94
1080i50, 1080i59.94, 1080i60

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:06 am
by Dave Del Vecchio
Xtreemtec wrote:Dave i'm pretty suprised by those Analog units not being able to do 3G.. But do HD and 6/12G... :?
Feels Weird.. But true..

Yeah, I'm sure the SDI driver hardware used is capable of 3G SDI, but I think because of the upscaling modes supported on these units, there are no 3G output options. With SD input they allow upscaling to HD in which case 1.5G HD-SDI is used. With HD component input, they allow upscaling to UHD in which case 6G or 12G SDI output is used.

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:12 pm
by Steinar H. Gunderson
Duo 2 - A & B (both input and output). Don't know which driver version it started at.

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:16 am
by Dave Del Vecchio
Here are the monitors:

SmartView HD - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 4.0.3), Output: matches input
SmartView Duo - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 4.0.3), Output: matches input
SmartScope Duo 4K - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 4.0.3), Output: matches input
SmartView 4K - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 4.0.1), Output: matches input

Video Assist - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 1.2)
Video Assist 4K - Input: Level A & B

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:48 pm
by Kevin Norris
Wow! Hadn’t been on in a bit! Awesome info guys!!! Thanks

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:49 pm
by Dave Del Vecchio
Here are the multi-viewers:

MultiView 16 - Input: Level A & B, Output (multiview): HD SDI or 6G SDI (no 3G)
MultiView 4 - Input: Level B, Output (multiview): HD SDI or 6G SDI (no 3G)
MultiView 4 HD - Input: Level A & B, Output (multiview): Level A & B

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:44 am
by Dave Del Vecchio
Here are the full-sized Teranex standards converters:

Teranex Express - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 4.2), Output: Level A & B
Teranex AV - Input: Level A & B, Output: Level A & B
Teranex 2D - Input: Level B, Output: Level B
Teranex 3D - Input: Level B, Output: Level B

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:13 am
by Dave Del Vecchio
Here are the HyperDeck recorders:

HyperDeck Studio - Input: HD SDI (no 3G), Output: HD SDI (no 3G)
HyperDeck Studio Pro - Input: Level B, Output: Level B
HyperDeck Studio 12G - Input: Level B, Output: Level B
HyperDeck Studio Mini - Input: Level A & B, Output: Level B

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:39 pm
by Dave Del Vecchio
Here are the Videohub routers:

Smart Videohub 12x12 - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.3.2), Output: matches input
Smart Videohub CleanSwitch 12x12 - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.3.2), Output: matches input
Smart Videohub 20x20 - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.3.2), Output: matches input
Smart Videohub 40x40 - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.3.2), Output: matches input
Smart Videohub 40x40 12G - Input: Level A & B (as of firmware 6.3.2), Output: matches input

Micro Videohub 16x16 - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input
Studio Videohub 16x32 - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input
Compact Videohub 40x40 - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input

Universal Videohub 72 - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input
Universal Videohub 288 - Input: Level A & B, Output: matches input

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:28 am
by Dave Del Vecchio
The Teranex Mini HDMI to SDI 12G and Teranex Mini HDMI to Optical converters now support selectable 3G SDI Level A or B output (as of firmware 6.1.1).

I have updated the post on the Teranex Mini converters above accordingly.

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:19 pm
by Tobias Dieterich
SDI Shield - Seems only to support Level B. No switch in setup utilty.

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:34 pm
by binaryburford
Following the latest v6.0 update to the HyperDeck Pro, it would seem that Level A as an input is now supported.... Can't find any mention of this in the documentation though....

Also our Multiview 16 has always accepted Level-A signals.......

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:53 am
by Tim Schumann
URSA Broadcast and URSA Mini Pro support 3G Level A and Level B when working in 3G.

URSA Broadcast added this in 5.0.1 and URSA Mini Pro added it in 6.0

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:36 pm
by binaryburford
binaryburford wrote:Following the latest v6.0 update to the HyperDeck Pro, it would seem that Level A as an input is now supported.... Can't find any mention of this in the documentation though....

Also our Multiview 16 has always accepted Level-A signals.......



Although once recorded, when played, Output seems to revert to Level B.

Please could BMD confirm the expected behaviour if it has changed???

Re: List of BMD Products that accept 3G Level A as of 8/30/

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:29 pm
by Örjan Wallén
ATEM Camera Converter - 3G Input: Level B, Output: Level B (+ HDMI In/Out in 1080p50/60)