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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 5:58 pm

HAHHAHA


THere it is, the box camera :)
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 5:59 pm

love it <3
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 5:59 pm

I really didn't expect this firework of cameras.
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Re: NAB 2024 - predictions?

PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:01 pm

Robert Niessner wrote:The BOX CAMERA has landed.


YouTube is about to go into meltdown! :lol:
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:05 pm

Now can we please get back to one more hour of showing Replay?
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:09 pm

Downloadable Ursa Cine footage is up

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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:11 pm

Resolve 19 Beta is up now.
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:14 pm

Pretty rad.


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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:14 pm

Amazing! Wait! Did they announce a 65mm 17K Camera Sensor?! Did I jokingly get that somewhat right in my previous posts on this Forum?
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:14 pm

timbutt2 wrote:Amazing! Wait! Did they announce a 65mm 17K Camera Sensor?! Did I jokingly get that somewhat right in my previous posts on this Forum?



You definitely nailed that one.
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:15 pm

Resolve 19 update with all the broadcast features are not for me. :(

That URSA Cine looks like a mix breed between the URSA Mini Pro and the original big URSA. This is for large productions and studio market. It has that side display like in the big URSA which tells me that this is made not for a single shooter camera. Cool as the features are, I think it will quickly have the same faith of the big URSA as it won't have the same sales as the UMP and price out the real buyers of BM Cameras. I doubt Hollywood will be replacing the Arri with BMUCINE any day soon. Buyers for this will likely be rental house. If I need this camera, I'll just rent it.

Now, the box camera PYXIS 6K, that I really like!!! But again, the battery is questionable. Will a v-mount adapter be available?

That's a nice panel which I have been asking BMD to come up with one in this forum - even shared a diagram of how I envisioned it to be. After years of not hearing anything, I gave up hope. I've been looking for an affordable one and this should have been it. Very unfortunate coz I needed one couple of months ago, so I bite the bullet and paid for a micro panel. :(
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:15 pm

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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:16 pm

I missed a feature point. Is the new Pyxis 6K the same sensor as the other full frame 6K camera? Or is it a new one?
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:18 pm

timbutt2 wrote:Amazing! Wait! Did they announce a 65mm 17K Camera Sensor?! Did I jokingly get that somewhat right in my previous posts on this Forum?


Tim, I wish they would throw you some sort of prize for that, haha
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:22 pm

jallen0 wrote:I missed a feature point. Is the new Pyxis 6K the same sensor as the other full frame 6K camera? Or is it a new one?

Same sensor.
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:22 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:Resolve 19 update with all the broadcast features are not for me. :(


I think you should rewatch the presentation - there are much more new features than those.
The new AI stabilizer alone is fantastic news. And the neural engine noise reduction.
And finally sidechaining for VST in Fairlight. And presets for footage audio track setup. No more click-deleting through 15 channels to reduce to one.
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:23 pm

Chris Cronin wrote:
jallen0 wrote:I missed a feature point. Is the new Pyxis 6K the same sensor as the other full frame 6K camera? Or is it a new one?

Same sensor.


Damn. That means the rolling shutter issue will be there.
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Insane!

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Ellory Yu wrote:Resolve 19 update with all the broadcast features are not for me. :(


Resolve 19 has some killer features in color page.
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:30 pm

Improved snapping and cursor sensitivity on the timeline

Thank god! I've been waiting for this like for 6 years
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:37 pm

Wow what a day for Blackmagic.

Interesting to see that internal ND have been all but relegated to the top of the line model now. I understand that with L-mount there is not enough physical space, but for the Pyxis PL-Mount version the space should have been there. I have to see I would not trade internal NDs for anything, so my 6K Pro converted to PL will have to keep trucking just a little longer.

I'll be curious if they ever start cutting that 12K sensor down into a S35-sensor size? I would be very interested in that - perhaps even in that Pyxis body they released.

What is everyone else's thought on this?
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 6:47 pm

Robert Niessner wrote:
Ellory Yu wrote:Resolve 19 update with all the broadcast features are not for me. :(


I think you should rewatch the presentation - there are much more new features than those.
The new AI stabilizer alone is fantastic news. And the neural engine noise reduction.
And finally sidechaining for VST in Fairlight. And presets for footage audio track setup. No more click-deleting through 15 channels to reduce to one.


Yes, I agree. It's worth it for all the features you mentioned above. I was commenting specifically on those broadcast features only - and the replay part - man that put me to sleep.
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 7:03 pm

timbutt2 wrote:I've figured out what the next Blackmagic Camera will be called: Blackmagic Catloaf Cinema Camera


That would a brilliant marketing move... especially with promo pictures featuring a relaxed cat loafing next to one of the cameras ;)
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Paul Jonathan wrote:Wow what a day for Blackmagic.

Interesting to see that internal ND have been all but relegated to the top of the line model now. I understand that with L-mount there is not enough physical space, but for the Pyxis PL-Mount version the space should have been there. I have to see I would not trade internal NDs for anything, so my 6K Pro converted to PL will have to keep trucking just a little longer.

I'll be curious if they ever start cutting that 12K sensor down into a S35-sensor size? I would be very interested in that - perhaps even in that Pyxis body they released.

What is everyone else's thought on this?



Same. Maybe one day the 'old' 12K sensor or a s35 restricted version of the new one in the Pyxis body, with internal ND (in a PL and EF version).
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So none of the new Blackmagic cameras are L mount, right? Must have been one hell of a restrictive deal with Leica
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Perhaps the new box camera could have been introduced as a single LF model in 2024 and then the EF and PL versions with internal ND would be released in 2025?

I don’t mean to upset anyone, but I’m glad to see they released a PL version today even without the internal ND filters. Still leaves the door open for future generations of the box camera.
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Sean van Berlo wrote:So none of the new Blackmagic cameras are L mount, right? Must have been one hell of a restrictive deal with Leica


Could sworn one of the box 6ks was L mount
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PostFri Apr 12, 2024 7:36 pm

I beg and beg for a low cost panel... this was a concept of a low cost panel I shared here in 2020.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=127340&p=693860&hilit=Panel+concept#p693860

It finally arrived. A little bit too late for me since I ended up with a micro panel just out of necessity.
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Sean van Berlo wrote:So none of the new Blackmagic cameras are L mount, right? Must have been one hell of a restrictive deal with Leica


The new 6k is available in L.

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If I could us the pyxsis with the new dji focus pro it would be a killer.

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I notice the pricing are kind of odd. $507 for the panel. Why not $495? :lol:
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Michel Rabe wrote:Pretty rad.


Congrats BMD, expectations exceeded by miles.


Pretty much what I was thinking while catching up on the livestream :)

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John Brawley wrote:
Sean van Berlo wrote:So none of the new Blackmagic cameras are L mount, right? Must have been one hell of a restrictive deal with Leica


The new 6k is available in L.

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And still only $3K!!!!

Wow.

Killer price tag for the new cine cam also even though it's higher than one would expect from Black Magic, relative to what it offers.
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Redefining the state of the art for BMD cameras, I hope they do well with it.
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rick.lang wrote:Perhaps the new box camera could have been introduced as a single LF model in 2024 and then the EF and PL versions with internal ND would be released in 2025?

I don’t mean to upset anyone, but I’m glad to see they released a PL version today even without the internal ND filters. Still leaves the door open for future generations of the box camera.


An interchangeable mount would have been nice, but I still want one of those little guys... once I'm working again... sigh.
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timbutt2 wrote:Amazing! Wait! Did they announce a 65mm 17K Camera Sensor?! Did I jokingly get that somewhat right in my previous posts on this Forum?


Tim, I wish they would throw you some sort of prize for that, haha

I'd take my prize in the first 65mm 17K Camera off the assembly line. Haha. I'll never be able to afford it as it will likely be a rental only. We'll see.
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Tim, you like IMAX and you’re working on narrative projects now, so you might one day combine both.
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rick.lang wrote:Tim, you like IMAX and you’re working on narrative projects now, so you might one day combine both.

I just hope that after the 65mm 17K that they take it up a notch to true IMAX 15-perf size and it's like 24K or something. Then maybe we can even get Nolan behind it. Haha.

But I'd gladly shoot a movie on this new 65mm 17K Sensor for IMAX. It just would be 2.4:1 or whatever the aspect ratio would be for that 17K sensor. I have to double check those dimensions.

EDIT: Going back to that streaming video: 17,520 X 8,040 pixels for 2.18:1 aspect ratio. So close to the 2.2:1 aspect ratio you got with 5-Perf 65mm Film.
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timbutt2 wrote:
rick.lang wrote:Tim, you like IMAX and you’re working on narrative projects now, so you might one day combine both.

I just hope that after the 65mm 17K that they take it up a notch to true IMAX 15-perf size and it's like 24K or something. Then maybe we can even get Nolan behind it. Haha.

But I'd gladly shoot a movie on this new 65mm 17K Sensor for IMAX. It just would be 2.4:1 or whatever the aspect ratio would be for that 17K sensor. I have to double check those dimensions.

EDIT: Going back to that streaming video: 17,520 X 8,040 pixels for 2.18:1 aspect ratio. So close to the 2.2:1 aspect ratio you got with 5-Perf 65mm Film.


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timbutt2 wrote:… 17,520 X 8,040 pixels for 2.18:1 aspect ratio. So close to the 2.2:1 aspect ratio you got with 5-Perf 65mm Film.


I was playing with the 17K sensor in my spreadsheet that summarizes many of shooting ratios for BMD cameras and couldn’t see why the horizontal resolution was that number. It’s not emulating any aspect ratio I can think of but I may be wrong since there’s been what seems like 100 formats in the last century.
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rick.lang wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:… 17,520 X 8,040 pixels for 2.18:1 aspect ratio. So close to the 2.2:1 aspect ratio you got with 5-Perf 65mm Film.


I was playing with the 17K sensor in my spreadsheet that summarizes many of shooting ratios for BMD cameras and couldn’t see why the horizontal resolution was that number. It’s not emulating any aspect ratio I can think of but I may be wrong since there’s been what seems like 100 formats in the last century.
It’s not perfect. But close enough. We’re talking about it being 0.02 off. So forgivable.


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BMD really set the bar on releasing new products!
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PostWed Apr 17, 2024 3:55 pm

You can all laugh at me, but I'm selling my 6k FF rig and going to.....

an URSA Mini 4.6k! the OG.
I found one under $1k in amazing condition. I was going to go back to the UMPG2, but I have all these fancy IRNDs lying around and I might as well utilize what I have.

I'm going to sit on the current products for now. If there's anything BMD has taught me is patience, haha.
If it would EVER make sense for me to own the Ursa Cine, I know I'll enjoy that camera to death.
But for now, the UM4.6k is gonna be paired with a Pocket 6k Pro for most, if not all, of my shoots for the foreseeable future.

(unless BMD wants to send me a camera to review, hehe)
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Re: NAB 2024 - predictions?

PostWed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pm

We aren't laughing, because we will probably do the same.
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Re: NAB 2024 - predictions?

PostWed Apr 17, 2024 4:37 pm

Nice to have such distinguished company added to the UM4.6K cabal of shooters who regularly pair that original CinemaDNG camera with a BRAW BMPCC4K/6K. Of course I’d love to add one of the new cameras, but for other reasons I’m currently financially constrained. I do feel my next camera will be my last camera, given my age, but shooting regularly with BMD cameras keeps me young at heart.
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Re: NAB 2024 - predictions?

PostWed Apr 17, 2024 4:39 pm

Adam Langdon wrote:But for now, the UM4.6k is gonna be paired with a Pocket 6k Pro for most, if not all, of my shoots for the foreseeable future.

It's a good camera for sure but you'll have to work around the different generations of the color science to match easily with the Pocket 6K Pro, or shoot cDNG on the Ursa Mini. Not a big deal though.
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