Twice sizing

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Sergey Zinchenko

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Twice sizing

PostMon Mar 20, 2017 7:44 am

I'm trying to make picture in picture effect.
First I make some zoom and sizing on the color page in input sizing or node sizing mode. Then on the edit page I'm trying to put that clip in the left bottom corner of another clip. When I do this I change the the sizing effect which I did on the color page. How can I avoid that?
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Re: Twice sizing

PostMon Mar 20, 2017 2:46 pm

use a node size for the second pass...
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Re: Twice sizing

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 5:22 am

That doesn't work.
I made some zoom and sizing on the color page in node sizing mode. Then I created new serial node. In this node I'd like to move all the shot to left bottom corner. But when I do sizing in this node in node sizing mode I make changes inside the shot. The position of whole shot is not moving.
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Re: Twice sizing

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 5:24 am

is it a picture in picture?
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Re: Twice sizing

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 5:27 am

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Re: Twice sizing

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 6:10 am

It doesn't help. Let me explain. I'd like to get the same clip:



But with one addition. I want to apply some zoom, pan and tilt to the shot with the man with guitar.
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Re: Twice sizing

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 10:21 am

Use a compound clip. then you can position the compound clip for the PIP & reframe the shot that is inside the compound clip. The User Manual tells all.....
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Re: Twice sizing

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 10:47 am

Thank you.
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Re: Twice sizing

PostFri Mar 24, 2017 5:58 am

Peter Cave wrote:Use a compound clip. then you can position the compound clip for the PIP & reframe the shot that is inside the compound clip. The User Manual tells all.....

I did it. Everything looks fine in DR. Even during rendering process everything looks great, no errors, no artifacts. But when I open the exported file (youtube max quality preset, data level full) I see some strange artifacts. My mask which was 100% red becomes green :shock: with blinking lines around and inside it. I see also strange color spots in different parts of the screen. This happens in that part of the clip where I use compoud clip. Other parts of the clip are fine.
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Re: Twice sizing

PostFri Mar 24, 2017 2:19 pm

are you rendering from cache? I had some weirdness with compounds clips
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Re: Twice sizing

PostFri Mar 24, 2017 4:27 pm

My export settings:
QuickTime
H.264
Field rendering - Turned off
3840*2160
29.97
Quality Automatic Best
Key Frames Automatic
Frame reordering - Turned on
Pixel aspect ratio Square
Data Levels Full
Data burn-in Same as project
Use optimized media - Turned off
Use render cached images - Turned off
Enable Flat Pass Off
Disable edit and input sizing - Turned off
Force sizing to highest quality - Turned on
Force debayer to highest quality - Turned on
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Re: Twice sizing

PostSat Mar 25, 2017 2:46 pm

DNxHD export does the same. I found out that not only the compoud clip generates artifacts. The end of the clip before the compound clip also has artifacts.
My mask - red arrow (255, 0, 0) looks like this after rendering:
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Re: Twice sizing

PostSat Mar 25, 2017 4:32 pm

1, test an export as dnx HD and see if it is working
2, can you post the specs of the system?
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Re: Twice sizing

PostWed Mar 29, 2017 4:14 am

waltervolpatto wrote:1, test an export as dnx HD and see if it is working
2, can you post the specs of the system?


1. It's not working.
2. i5-750 4.4 GHz, GTX 1060 6 GB, 20 GB RAM
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Re: Twice sizing

PostWed Mar 29, 2017 7:39 am

Change the render data levels to "video" and see what happens.

I observe this kind of color change only in optimized media / render cache when I select a low quality format like DNxHR SQ.

In the final render it disappears, if I do not use optimized media / render cache for rendering.
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Re: Twice sizing

PostThu Mar 30, 2017 8:17 pm

Sergey Zinchenko wrote:
waltervolpatto wrote:1, test an export as dnx HD and see if it is working
2, can you post the specs of the system?


1. It's not working.
2. i5-750 4.4 GHz, GTX 1060 6 GB, 20 GB RAM


I'm sorry, did you do 1920x1080 (HD) in your test?
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