MIni Monitor 4K

So in one of my suites I decided to try out a Mini Monitor 4K. If all you work with is 16:9 1080, or UHD everything is fine, but if you have a different aspect ratio the output is squashed in Premiere. For example we often shoot in 2:1 or 2:39:1 aspect ratio. so our Frame sizes can be 3840 x 1920, or 3840 x 1605. When creating a timeline with these resolutions it squashes the picture horizontally and sets the output of the card to 1080P output. Any Ideas the interface inside of premiere is pretty sparse.

Edit 1
Should have specified:

Mac OS 10.12.3
Blackmagic Desktop Video 10.8.5
Premiere Pro CC 2017 11.0.2

Kevin

So I just spoke to support about this, and they have no answers why it works in resolve, but not premiere. This is the same kind of answers I have gotten for years with BM. Implementation of product features should work the same across all of the software you support. Give me an option to not to scale. That would work.

Kevin

Nope- you are wrong here. This is a matter for Adobe support.
BM card passes what Adobe engine sends to it. There is setting which allows you to choose to fit, centre crop etc. Have you tried it?

If this doesn't work- always work in UHD frame for 2.39:1 material and then if you want non standard frame export, change project setting before export. This should work. BM card always have to work in UHD frame size, it's just a matter how non standard frame size is inserted into this frame (and this is rather controlled by Adobe engine in Premiere, not BM drivers).

Adobe does not decide how the scaling works on the BM products. You have 3 options for non standard sizes. No output, Scale Down, and Scale UP. Why does it not scale with a locked aspect ratio?

Kevin

In case of Premiere they do and this is separate from BM hardware scaling (most likely).

I have also noticed similar artifacts when monitoring widescreen aspect ratios with this card. While on the edit page the card displays both the top and bottom "crops" on top of each-other, so the image space is pushed to one side of the screen with a consistent visual artifact along the bottom most pixel row. But in the color page it is cropped and displayed correctly.

You mean in Resolve?
Again- this is Resolve not really card issue. Resolve scales image to one of the standards and sends to card which just passes it as is.

I was also looking for the answer to this. What I've done is forget about the Mini monitor for Premiere altogether. Like others have said works great for DaVinci so leave it for that and that alone. My second monitor is HDMI based so my advise is get a great Nvidia video card, which you need CUDA for DaVinci anyway. I have active Display port to HDMI cables going to both monitors which output UHD @ 60p which is perfect.

I am currently using an Nvidia Titan Xp in Mac Pro 2012 os 10.12. So in Premiere select your second monitor (or which ever you're using) in your playback settings as an output monitor instead of the Decklink Mini 4k. This works perfect. I always shoot 2.35:1 aspect ratio and I needed a correct aspect output for clients and this does the trick. Since I always shoot Panavision Anamorphic/Alexa I needed an OLED based system and these TV's can switch outputs. So I select a secondary "Desktop Monitor" for a Premiere output and Switch to a different calibrated input for the Deck Link 4k, when I am doing a color grade in DaVinci. Wish the MIni Monitor 4K worked for both but it doesn't.

It's been suggested to me by BM support to use a 16:9 4K or UHD timeline in Premiere Pro, but performance suffers in Premiere because you're not working within the correct aspect ratio of the files..

Hope this helps.

Video cards I tested that work great for multi monitor setups are Nvidia Quadro P4000 and up, and Nvidia Titan Xp. You could probably get away with a GTX 1080 (for 1920x1080 displays) if you're not pushing dual 4K displays at HDR/10 bit..

Same issue with Final Cut Pro X. BMD Support says there should be a setting in FCPX, which there is not. I'm guessing it's the same in Premiere.