Peter Chamberlain wrote:Christian Lessner wrote:My feature request is to do the same and simply create a timeline of the used footage (trimmed to accommodate retimes, dissolves, etc. plus handles)
Have a look at the commercial workflow options in the deliver settings.
Christian I have wanted this feature for so long.
My idea was to add an option to the Master Timeline to limit it to used footage plus handles (as set in user prefs). This would hide all the footage not used in “real” timelines, and the master timeline would be useful again.
A broader solution would be some kind of generative smart timelines that can be created from a number of variables - even if these are “live”. The current master timeline could be based on this new architecture, I imagine it working similar to smart bins. You could choose specific bins or timelines as sources, set to full clips, or in the case of timeline sources used clips with or without handles, choose different sorting options etc.
Peter the commercial workflow delivery options are not useful in this situation. They are designed to leverage versions to render different grades of the save footage.
The problem for the modern colourist is that takes are usually so long as to make the master timeline much less useful. You might have 10 or more different timelines for a single commercial grade (a 60, 2x 30s, 4x 15s, a directors cut, 6x10s etc) (as a side note, being able to import multiple xml’s at once would save a lot of time, maybe even automatic import and setting of reference videos if they are in the same folder with matching filenames). In a perfect world everything would be precisely cut down from the 60, but that is the never the case. Remote grading helps but gets confusing with long takes (two shots in an edit may be from the same take, but need seperate grades).
So you import all your footage, xmls, references, check everything. The master timeline at this point is probably 2 hours long. You delete all the unused clips, now it might be 30 minutes… but you know that even with one second handles (which is standard), there is really only 90 seconds of footage in there you need to work on and render. It would be really useful to be able to further limit the master timeline to show just the footage you need to work on (used footage in normal timelines plus handles). Also handy that this master timeline has no edit scaling on it (full plate at source res is what I almost always deliver), and that is at 100% speed.
Also, when it comes to render time, currently you need to set up a render job for each timeline, render the same footage multiple times, and hand the online artist a mess. Or you gamble that everything in the other timelines is contained in the 60, plus handles… plus those three other shots you remember in the 15s… much better to render this master timeline, meaning each shot across all the versions shares the same source footage in the online.
My current workflow for big commercial jobs is to create a single timeline containing all my timelines by nesting and decomposing. I then manually reduce this down to a single track, export an EDL, and reimport the footage using “split and add” - this almost gives me what I want, but you often end up with a few doubles up overlapping shots (another request - make the start and end timecode of these shortened shots editable in clip attributes). Also currently problematic if there is an edit change or additional edit after you’ve started working that references footage in the same take but outside the bounds of the split clip.
One more feature request - I’d love a “match edit scaling to offline reference” button in the edit page that uses difference mode and automatically tries to match the edit scaling of the current frame of the offline. Matching this manually is often what keeps be back late at the studio after a full day of grading, prepping for the next days job.
Oh, and a way of disabling all scaling on the current clip temporarily in the colour page, similar to show clip with handles. Same with speed changes. Perhaps could be two variations of the show clip with handles, like menu checkboxes - show in real time / show native fit to timeline.
And have “render at source” automatically disable output blanking.
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