A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostFri Nov 03, 2017 9:31 pm

I want one!
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Nov 04, 2017 7:56 am

This looks amazing! Possibly the pan/tilt head we have all been waiting for?


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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSun Nov 05, 2017 6:51 pm

Hi Kim,
High speed is what I need... I'll reach out to you from your website. Love to make it to Finland but its too far away for me. Unless you have an old group B rally car we can go test out. ;)
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Nov 06, 2017 2:12 am

Yes Kim, I am interested also.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostTue Nov 07, 2017 6:50 pm

Kim, what did you attach to the control fluid head to control the camera movements? This is a grand set up for some remote camera applications.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Nov 08, 2017 2:52 am

Nice!
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostThu Nov 09, 2017 7:54 am

Dummy head, now all you need is a dummy zoom rocker and a focus ring. Joysticks and knobs are for suckers.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Nov 13, 2017 6:11 pm

Extremely interested in this... even a couple of them
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Nov 13, 2017 7:36 pm

Kim looking good! I am also interested, got any idea of a ballpark cost yet?
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Nov 25, 2017 1:05 pm

Not yet. But will be in some future update..
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Nov 27, 2017 8:59 pm

Kim, i just can’t wait to see if the price is in my range of tolerance . I got a couple of avionics ptz cameras in my setup that I can’t bare any more.
For PTZ I think the only atem that has control is the studio pro but not sure it is implemented yet cos’ the atem range needs a firmware update that hasn’t come yet. It seems that with the 1 or 2me panel, ptz is control is available but haven’t seen anybody using it. Anyway, I may be wrong, but I think this is some kind of gadget as in production, I can’t see where I would I have time to produce, give orders to cameramen and manage the ptz devices at the same time. To me an external control panel for ptz is always required.


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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostTue Nov 28, 2017 5:52 am

I agree. We used PTZ cameras for live event (meetings) coverage on a live cable TV feed, and had to have a separate PTZ camera controller and operator, as the tech editor on the vision mixer (ATEM) was busy switching Camera feeds and putting up graphic keys. You can only have one person do so much.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Nov 29, 2017 4:08 am

Following with great interest…
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostFri Dec 29, 2017 4:39 pm

Also waiting to see price and availability.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Dec 30, 2017 8:21 am

Kim Janson wrote:This is the LeViteZer Control SW color correction user interface

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And there is also many other controls, all supported by the camera that we can control over SDI. This is the video settings control screen

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And gimbal control when using LeViteZer protocol over Ethernet. The LeViteZer protocol will be public.

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All parameters can be saved and recalled, including full gimbal control, that is much better than normal Pan/tilt control. Angles can be controlled very precisely and also how fast it moves to next angle (from 0.0001 to more than 360 Degrees/second.) and also how fast it accelerates, making the starts and stops of the movement smooth if wanted, or snappy. And yes, as it is a gimbal, roll can be also controlled.

Today we did also first tests with the PTZ control over SDI that BMD now provides and it works good, though is much more limited than using the full gimbal control over Ethernet, but the advantage is that everything is controlled over SDI.


Cool. You're too deep and need to slow down and explain this to the cave people like me. Does your software talk to the cameras via a custom Arduino shield or is an Atem still required?
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostThu Feb 15, 2018 4:31 pm

Video or it never happend :lol: :lol:
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostFri Feb 23, 2018 8:50 pm

Pretty smooth so far.. See some hard stops at the begin / end of movement.. But that is a bit difficult to get ramping up down smooth enough i guess.. I have my decent share of DC motor controller done so far.. And there is a point were the motors have enough torq to get moving.. Not to mention mass in movement.. ;)
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Feb 24, 2018 3:02 am

So Kim, how much are the gimbals? Looking good!
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostFri Apr 20, 2018 2:37 am

Sounds interesting to me Kim, count me in.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostFri Jun 29, 2018 7:44 pm

Congratulations Kim, good show! :mrgreen:
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 2:03 pm

Very cool!
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Aug 20, 2018 9:17 am

Take a look into the motors of Tilta.. The Nucleus motors are quite "cheap" ($300) Are able to control on a bus structure and also wireless..

https://tilta.com/shop/nucleus-m-brushless-wireless-follow-focus-motor/
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I do have a redrock follow focus motor with control.. Was about to rebuild the control interface of that one.. And buy some more motors.. But with $695 they are quite expensive..
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Sep 15, 2018 5:17 am

Looking good Kim.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostThu Sep 20, 2018 6:23 am

So is there a timeline on when the Ethernet control will be available? Also can this be mounted on a pole hanging upside-down from a truss?
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Mar 13, 2019 2:43 pm

Sorry Kim but 1500 for big box when you can get skaarhoj with hardware controller to it for 100 euro more is way to high. I would be interested but this is to expensive :-(
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Mar 13, 2019 4:06 pm

Hi Kim, the USB to SDI, is it based on the arduino shield? If so It's useless for me as I work in 4K
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Mar 13, 2019 4:40 pm

Please do explain, I have hard to believe this as the shield is 3G sdi. This has been the only reason why I can not use the shield. :-/
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Mar 13, 2019 5:58 pm

Strange, as you say input only and I said this myself but others said it would not work with 4K.
But I trust your statement as you sell this, as if it would be untrue it would be bad for business to make claim. Thanks for explaining :-)
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostFri Mar 15, 2019 5:20 pm

Kim, he want to control CCU and send return video in 4K. Discussed in the Visca tread.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Mar 18, 2019 2:02 pm

Exactly. Thanks Daniel.

This is why ATEM thought Ethernet is the only way for me. :-)
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostThu Apr 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Big fan of what you're doing. Especially with the focus rings.

Any updates on availability and pricing (unless I missed that info in this thread).

And do you have any restrictions for shipping ?
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Oct 10, 2020 6:43 pm

Is the LeViteZer Control SW that runs on Windows, Mac, Linux and Android, the USB to SDI box available?
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Oct 14, 2020 4:28 pm

How much is this device and will it control DSLRs and point and shoots?
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostMon Apr 05, 2021 6:39 pm

Hey Kim,

Did you ever cook up an ethernet version of the USB to SDI box?

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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostWed Feb 09, 2022 1:31 pm

Nice! Extremely interested in this... even a couple of them
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostThu Aug 18, 2022 11:16 pm

Kim Janson wrote:While waiting new studio camera, this thread has lost its focus somewhat. However I will be working during the fall with the BMMSC, B4 lens control, VISCA pan tilt control, and SDI control, and maybe post something here.


Your developing VISCA for your pan & tilt head would be of significant interest. We currently use Mark Roberts Motion Control software to subject-track with Canon PTZs (via ethernet VISCA). It works superbly. I'd like to be able to put an Ursa Broadcast on a P&T head, then subject track with MMRC via VISCA.
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Re: A bit more than pan tilt head for BMMSC

PostSat Oct 01, 2022 3:01 pm

LouisBacker wrote:
Kim Janson wrote:While waiting new studio camera, this thread has lost its focus somewhat. However I will be working during the fall with the BMMSC, B4 lens control, VISCA pan tilt control, and SDI control, and maybe post something here.


Your developing VISCA for your pan & tilt head would be of significant interest. We currently use Mark Roberts Motion Control software to subject-track with Canon PTZs (via ethernet VISCA). It works superbly. I'd like to be able to put an Ursa Broadcast on a P&T head, then subject track with MMRC via VISCA.



This is very similar to the setup I'm envisioning for my education facility. The MRMC tracking software looks incredible.
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