John Brawley wrote:Wayne Steven wrote:You would have to come out with something like that John.
I don't understand what you're saying here.
Wayne Steven wrote:Let's see as far as I'm concerned a lot of companies fit that description, even BM. I hadn't heard of them too much. It's a grossly unfair derogatory statement.
Is it ?
..Huh ?
This is worse than vapourware...
Yes.
>>BMD have hundreds of employees when they started making cameras and 20 years of history in making products in post that sold in the thousands of units.
These guys a re a boutique one off type company that have sold...maybe a few hundred units (i bet it's a lot less)
Do you really think he has survived 8 years and designed a range of products on just hundreds of sales John?
I would imagine thousands of sales.
>>When I go their website and try and click on links i get a 404 error on most of the links. Not a good look really.
Lol! Maybe a site rehash or hack. I got to the product page and downloaded the brochure with pictures. Seen a picture of some sort of unit too.
>>They haven't specified a price. I dare you to guess what it will be.
You can tell them the price. They ask you on the link in the page. But seriously, you either going to go high as those sort of people can afford the extra expense of recording uncompressed and backing up in the background on a production schedule, or low to accommodate the extra rigging and recording costs. But seriously, you can buy it as a high quality 4k+ camera to do 4:2:2 etc to an external recorder monitor. 15.5 stops (he hasn't mentioned HDR, so that would put it in line with latest Sony's) and doing 4k from 8k could be sharp and more accurate color detail.
>>I love any camera that works and that I can get my hands on today. This is not that camera.
I think they're a long way from being ready to ship and be field ready. No price, no demo pictures.
When you say "at long last" it says something different to me than what you think it says.
JB
At long last something is on the horizon. A lot of outfits go belly up, and the market has slowed for sometime. I'm a fan of the Sony 15.5 stop sensor tech. Lower end cameras are even getting it but the Pocket hasn't. I look at the samples and am uneasy.
The issues BM had, was with the machine vision side of the industry. A proper filming/stills orientated sensor company should have a lot worked out for customers to get such a camera running. There are many cheap cameras that are based on other's design.
Another issue was trying to do a custom version, expensive.
John, I could say I prefer a camera that works and I can get my hands on today about many BM cameras and others in between being announced and released. But they often do. So it's up to them. Except as a camera head I don't have much use for a non codec 8k camera. I hope they get a codec recording solution