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I've thought of kick starting a small camera phone before. I have some amazing ideas to make it really nice to use professionally. But in reality, it's a major pain to do products But we are here and BM could do it instead?
Major reasons:
- Others charge too much for a cinema phone, or normal phone. Even with 3D camera setup (for post computational photography effects like DOF and bokeh), it could be done for less than $300AU. A four camera array is possible.
- most others undeliver for the price. Phones should be able to do something like prores and ProRes Raw (similar codec). I've got some really nice data card storage ideas, not microSD cards. The sensors often are weedy, but there are good ones.
- As the original fullhd pocket is now gone, a phone could take it's place for fullhd which people still enjoy filming. Fullhd or 2.5k like the original cinema camera, need be the only high quality mode available (using cheaper chipset for the compression). 4k would still be at some reasonable quality.
- a vertical colour filter foveon design (Sigma and partners), Sony, or Canon (if either will sell you theirs) could be used to sell the colour rendering as a marketing feature.
- The phone controls can be upgraded for shooting.
- BM can supply new professional recording software, or upgrade the mundane android camera software.
- OEM/chipset manufactures can supply a cheap phone platform that can be modified by BM, and BM can offer the phone package, or just camera improvements, to phone companies to license as a special feature phone. This means others bare most of the costs, with BM recieving a license fee.
- Did I mention 3.5-4 inch. Very pocketable, but very usable with the features I'm thinking of, including unique phone features as well as camera features. It's not meant to have the highest resolution or video resolution, but the best at a modest usable resolution.
- lens mount ( ).
- for $699, more reasonable multipoint 3D could be possible. A fraction of the competition. A multipoint lens onto single chip sensor is possible, able to be replaced by a mounted lens. This means that if the multipoint is 2k-2.5k, the single mount could be 4k-5k.
I miss using my old 3.5 inch phone to film years ago. It proved very handy and versatile to have around. We go bigger and bigger phones, which I admit, have their advantages, but that little thing just felt good. I've devoted time over the decades to figuring out controls on handheld devices, to give near max desirable feel, so I think it can be done, and I've looked at going smaller. Just as a camera, something a fraction of the size again, is possible. At that point, instead of a micro, you can literally just stick them around a scene.
Something to contemplate.
Major reasons:
- Others charge too much for a cinema phone, or normal phone. Even with 3D camera setup (for post computational photography effects like DOF and bokeh), it could be done for less than $300AU. A four camera array is possible.
- most others undeliver for the price. Phones should be able to do something like prores and ProRes Raw (similar codec). I've got some really nice data card storage ideas, not microSD cards. The sensors often are weedy, but there are good ones.
- As the original fullhd pocket is now gone, a phone could take it's place for fullhd which people still enjoy filming. Fullhd or 2.5k like the original cinema camera, need be the only high quality mode available (using cheaper chipset for the compression). 4k would still be at some reasonable quality.
- a vertical colour filter foveon design (Sigma and partners), Sony, or Canon (if either will sell you theirs) could be used to sell the colour rendering as a marketing feature.
- The phone controls can be upgraded for shooting.
- BM can supply new professional recording software, or upgrade the mundane android camera software.
- OEM/chipset manufactures can supply a cheap phone platform that can be modified by BM, and BM can offer the phone package, or just camera improvements, to phone companies to license as a special feature phone. This means others bare most of the costs, with BM recieving a license fee.
- Did I mention 3.5-4 inch. Very pocketable, but very usable with the features I'm thinking of, including unique phone features as well as camera features. It's not meant to have the highest resolution or video resolution, but the best at a modest usable resolution.
- lens mount ( ).
- for $699, more reasonable multipoint 3D could be possible. A fraction of the competition. A multipoint lens onto single chip sensor is possible, able to be replaced by a mounted lens. This means that if the multipoint is 2k-2.5k, the single mount could be 4k-5k.
I miss using my old 3.5 inch phone to film years ago. It proved very handy and versatile to have around. We go bigger and bigger phones, which I admit, have their advantages, but that little thing just felt good. I've devoted time over the decades to figuring out controls on handheld devices, to give near max desirable feel, so I think it can be done, and I've looked at going smaller. Just as a camera, something a fraction of the size again, is possible. At that point, instead of a micro, you can literally just stick them around a scene.
Something to contemplate.
Last edited by Wayne Steven on Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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bTruthful side topics in-line with or related to, the discussion accepted
cOften people deceive themselves so much they do not understand, even when the truth is explained to them