nVidia GEFORCE® RTX 2080 Ti

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Thinking of preordering this one, I have a GTX 1080 Founders Ed. today, would it be possible to keep that in the computer for, say, display, and have the 2080 TI card do my compute? Would it significantly improve Resolve 15? (I have the studio version)

The 1080 is no slouch either. Before you invest in a new card, check your bottlenecks in practical work.
A lot of the load balance depends on the codecs you use, the effects and filters and on data throughput.

There is no single best configuration for Resolve – well, maybe, the best of everything – but if money is limited you'll need too see where your typical workflow will profit most.

if you do not see "out of memory" errors with your 8g card now, then adding more VRAM is a complete waste

adding more compute power tho, is not a waste if your GPU's currently are bottle necking your workflow, are they in taskmanager, do they every hit 100% sustained in typical use?

My current bottleneck is my CPU. I've a 16-core i7-7820X, and it's at 100% during rendering and editing/Grading.

Those cards are really sweet..

But the 1080ti is plenty already...
Cpu/ drives are a bigger bottleneck.

Good news is that it might lower the 1080TI prices. RTX launch was careful not to compare to GTX.
I'll wait for comparison benchmarks and skip the hype.

Those cards are really sweet..

But the 1080ti is plenty already...
Cpu/ drives are a bigger bottleneck.

Is it?
I would say very opposite. CPU and drive is not real issue. Add NR and your GPU is done quickly.

Those cards are really sweet..

But the 1080ti is plenty already...
Cpu/ drives are a bigger bottleneck.

I say this in jest, but your sig doesn't list drives.

With 2TB NVMe drives available for $800, you can inexpensively make a 16TB RAID0 media drive that can read >20GB/s. That's enough bandwidth for >80 4.6K RAW tracks. I doubt 4x 2080 Ti's would be able to keep up.

I didn't read too deep into all the specs but from my initial impressions, while they will be faster than the current gpus, they won't be leaps and bounds better. A lot of the hype about this gpu is about ray tracing which is used in 3d modeling applications (and gaming) but that isn't used when color grading in resolve.

My expectation is maybe somewhere between 20% and 30% increase over the 1080ti, in regards to performance in resolve.

Those cards are really sweet..

But the 1080ti is plenty already...
Cpu/ drives are a bigger bottleneck.

Is it?
I would say very opposite. CPU and drive is not real issue. Add NR and your GPU is done quickly.

depends upon machine spec's / raster really

dual 12c 2697v2 / dual 1080ti /SAS array with 16 disks... NR playing RT in a UHD timeline is not really an issue anyway for me, i just don't use NR much because i'm not a fan of soft / plasticy images

if he's already seen the CPU as the bottleneck, then why spend coin on a GPU, esp when the current GPU is constrianed by the CPU?

Yes, but when you forget about RED sources then it's way easier to deliver CPU power than GPU power to Resolve.

Is there any use or future use for the Real Time Ray tracing engine in the RTX 2080TI in Resolve and or Fusion (BMD?)? I built a new system recently and it is fast but have been limping by with a slower card until prices came down from the Bitcoin highs. I can hang on until the RTX2080TI ships but maybe 2 GTX1080TIs would be a good deal and nearly as fast as 2 RTX2080TIs especially if Ray Tracing makes no difference to Resolve now or in the future. I would like to be comfortable doing reasonable 4k work.

I'm personally holding off judgement until I see some real world benchmarks. The fact that nVidia, came up with completely new benchmarks that the old cards where never designed to be good at gives me a great deal of pause.

The boost clock is only 3% greater, so unless all the ray tracing tech is some how utilized by Resolve, I'm not seeing a very substantial improvement.

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                       1080 Ti     2080 Ti     Diff
CUDA Cores             3584        4352        +21%
Boost Clock (MHz)      1582        1635        +3%
Mem. Speed (Gbps)      11          14          27%
Mem. Interface (bit)   352         352         0%
Mem. Bandwidth (GB/s)  484         616         27%
Power (W)              250         260         4%


Yes, most informed commentators are advising everyone to hold off until the tests have been done.

Looking at the CUDA core-count, the new RTX2080Ti looks as if it may be only slightly faster (certainly the "bang per buck" will remain much better for the old 1080Ti).

As for the raytracing... well unless Fusion is rewritten to incorporate raytracing (unlikely) then I doubt anyone will see any benefits from that. The Tensor cores (AI) may be somewhat more useful... if they can be accessed as a matrix of computing blocks and not just a monolithic unit.

I was holding off until the RTX announcements/launch but if I see a good 1080ti going for the right price I'll probably grab one now. Sadly, the prices of the 1080 and 1080ti are unlikely to fall much (if at all) and I suspect that's exactly how NVidia wants it.

Puget systems put out an article reviewing the 2080ti and the 2080 in resolve. They also just put one out on the 2070. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-2080-Ti-Performance-1238/

My current bottleneck is my CPU. I've a 16-core i7-7820X, and it's at 100% during rendering and editing/Grading.

you are supposed to be at 100%, it's called optimization, no matter what CPU.

you are supposed to be at 100%, it's called optimization, no matter what CPU.

Common misconception, not all tasks have no speed limit. Playing a media file will only use as much CPU as is required to do real time playback. For something like 8K RED, this is a lot, but for something like 8K DPX, it's almost nothing.

you are supposed to be at 100%, it's called optimization, no matter what CPU.

Common misconception, not all tasks have no speed limit. Playing a media file will only use as much CPU as is required to do real time playback. For something like 8K RED, this is a lot, but for something like 8K DPX, it's almost nothing.

He said he is at 100% during rendering.
That's when you want that 100%. For the rest I am with you.

FYI: Your CPU is an 8-core, not 16-core.
If that's your bottleneck, you need to invest here first before you will get any benefit from a GPU upgrade.

I'm in a similar situation and will upgrade from a 6x 4,2GHz to a 10-core with similar OC performance. That will help me with higher res RAW material and final delivery got stay in time.

The Puget Systems tested RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti performance in Resolve 15. Their article may be really helpful for everyone that is considering buying RTX 2080 TI. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to post a link to the article here so you need to use google and search for this article by yourself. Just search for "DaVinci Resolve 15: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti Performance".

I've replaced my Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080TI Gaming with Palit RTX 2080TI GAMINGPRO OC and so far I'm quite happy with that upgrade. It performs much better especially when using power windows and TR NR. It's still doesn't give you a perfectly smooth playback of 4,6K braw but it's definately not as laggy as on GTX 1080 TI.

Looks like my bottleneck now in DR16 is the GPU (nVidia GTX 1080, non-Ti) - considering that RTX2080 Ti card, but the price point on it is a little... beefy

Looks like my bottleneck now in DR16 is the GPU (nVidia GTX 1080, non-Ti) - considering that RTX2080 Ti card, but the price point on it is a little... beefy

Wait until AMD release their 7nm NAVI GPUs in a few months. Even if those GPUs aren't as good as many hope it should at least put some price-pressure on NVIDIA and perhaps see a fall in the street price of RTX cards.

Looks like my bottleneck now in DR16 is the GPU (nVidia GTX 1080, non-Ti) - considering that RTX2080 Ti card, but the price point on it is a little... beefy

Read this article and you know what card you need when speed is important and when you don't want to run out of memory when using heavy effects like Noise reduction.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-AMD-Radeon-VII-16GB-Performance-1382/

Spoiler alert, it will cost you around $700.

Or in Norge something like this https://www.komplett.no/kampanje/81667/amd-radeon-vii

Looks like my bottleneck now in DR16 is the GPU (nVidia GTX 1080, non-Ti) - considering that RTX2080 Ti card, but the price point on it is a little... beefy

Read this article and you know what card you need when speed is important and when you don't want to run out of memory when using heavy effects like Noise reduction.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-AMD-Radeon-VII-16GB-Performance-1382/

Spoiler alert, it will cost you around $700.

Or in Norge something like this https://www.komplett.no/kampanje/81667/amd-radeon-vii

Misha,

Can the Radeon 7 be used at present to encode H265 with GPU acceleration. While the 16GB vram is attrractive to me I need to encode h265 that the 1080ti do very quickly,

Misha,

Can the Radeon 7 be used at present to encode H265 with GPU acceleration. While the 16GB vram is attrractive to me I need to encode h265 that the 1080ti do very quickly,

According to Rand Thompson (a Davinci Resolve nerd) this is one of the new feature in DR16 for the codecs and delivery section:

AMD hardware accelerated decoding of H.264 and H.265 on Windows in DaVinci Resolve Studio
AMD hardware accelerated encoding of H.264 and H.265 on Windows in DaVinci Resolve Studio

But why would you use a crap quality GPU accelerated H265 codec when you have a cpu like your 7960x running at 4.3 GHz all-core? you can probably hit realtime 4k 25 fps with it.
GPU accelerated H265 is not better than CPU encoded H264 at the same size.

Those 16 GB are nice, even nicer is the speed of it (1024 GByte/s).

Our VEGA FE's also have 16 GB but are limited by it's memory speed (~560 GByte/s overclocked to 1100 MHz).

The rest of Rands stuff about codecs:

Codecs and Delivery

Quick Export for quickly performing renders from various pages^
Rendering all timeline audio tracks individually in single clip mode^
Decoding iOS Voice Memo, including lossless formats
Improved support for decoding and linking IMF supplemental packages in DaVinci Resolve Studio
Support for 20th Century Fox IMF preset in DaVinci Resolve Studio
Option for DCP quantization levels when rendering using the Kakadu JPEG2000 codecs
User alert when the render resolution is larger than the timeline resolution
Ability to use Super Scale in timeline output scaling in order to perform upscaling on renders and deliveries
Support for encoding to Panasonic SHV 8K in DaVinci Resolve Studio
Support for trimming MXF clips with temporal codecs in media management
Ability to minimize or disable viewer updates during rendering
AMD hardware accelerated decoding of H.264 and H.265 on Windows in DaVinci Resolve Studio
AMD hardware accelerated encoding of H.264 and H.265 on Windows in DaVinci Resolve Studio
Improved support for NVIDIA H.264 and H.265 rendering parameters on the Delivery page on Windows and Linux in DaVinci Resolve Studio
Improved support for Intel Quick Sync H.264 and H.265 parameters on the Delivery page on Windows in DaVinci Resolve Studio
Option to select the hardware acceleration method for decoding H.264 and H.265 on Windows and Linux - DaVinci Resolve Studio
Improved performance when decoding H.264 and H.265 clips on macOS
Improved performance when encoding H.264 and H.265 clips on macOS
Option to select hardware or software encoding for H.264 in macOS
Ability to set the Entropy mode when encoding H.264 on macOS
Improved display of options for H.265 profiles with implicit bit depth selection in the Deliver page on macOS
Improved HDR metadata encoding when rendering to H.265
Improved performance when encoding to AVI formats
Support for D-Gamut and D-Log for DJI RAW clips
Support for GPU accelerated decoding of Canon RAW clips using the Canon SDK
Support for decoding Canon C700 Full Frame clips
Support decoding Canon RAW clips in half res and quarter res mode
Support for decoding and encoding Avid DNxUncompressed formats
Support for decoding ARRI HDE clips
Ability to control QuantScale and MaxFrameSizeInPercent parameters when encoding to Grass Valley formats
Improved IMF composition settings options with the ability to rename native assets
Improved naming support for native DCP and IMF renders
Removed folder extensions from IMF/DCP renders

Misha,

Can the Radeon 7 be used at present to encode H265 with GPU acceleration. While the 16GB vram is attrractive to me I need to encode h265 that the 1080ti do very quickly,

But why would you use a crap quality GPU accelerated H265 codec when you have a cpu like your 7960x running at 4.3 GHz all-core? you can probably hit realtime 4k 25 fps with it.
GPU accelerated H265 is not better than CPU encoded H264 at the same size.

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Simply because CPU H265 encoding is not offered in 15.3. Also I find Nvidia 265 10 bit encoding to be very acceptable in 15.3. And very fast.