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RED Hydrogen One

PostFri Nov 02, 2018 11:58 pm

My prediction seems to be correct:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/19064 ... drogen-one

+ other websites with same 1st impressions. RED blew so much money on this.
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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 3:51 am

I really was hoping good things for Hydrogen One. But the truth is, I was expecting it to be a disappointing gimmick. From the looks of things, it's failed to live up to the hype around the 3D capabilities.

For RED camera users, this may be a really useful tool in the RED ecosystem. For the rest of us... meeeh.
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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 3:51 am

Andrew, can you change the thread title to RED Hydrogen One? RED One was their first cinema camera, no?


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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 7:16 am

rick.lang wrote:Andrew, can you change the thread title to RED Hydrogen One? RED One was their first cinema camera, no?


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I was wondering why that camera has it's own post in 2018 on BM forums and got intrigued.
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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 10:11 pm

rick.lang wrote:Andrew, can you change the thread title to RED Hydrogen One? RED One was their first cinema camera, no?


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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 10:45 pm

Thank you, Andrew.


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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostSun Nov 04, 2018 3:17 am

As expected. Hopefully I can stop hearing about this now, unless they find a way to make it actually useful with a RED rig.
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostMon Nov 05, 2018 5:08 pm

Having been using a Hydrogen One for the past week, and showing it to several people, the response has been VERY different. The standard 2D image quality is good straight out of the camera, the hologram view gets most people who see it giddy with excitement (there is a caveat -- it's pretty disorienting if you view it from outside the optimal viewing angle, which in hologram mode is pretty narrow), and more professional oriented features are coming soon to Red's camera app.

And... a LOT of people who have Hydrogen Ones aren't Red camera owners. Not everyone is happy with them, but most are.

And most of the reviews so far are based on early alpha and beta firmware, focus on the specs (Snapdragon 835 instead of 845) rather than on actual usage (the primary improvement in the 845 was in power efficiency and graphics, but Unreal based games look great and are buttery smooth on it)...

One bozo actually though it was going to be a holograph projector like in Star Wars... even though it was obvious to everyone who was paying attention that was not the case... Seriously, that's like criticizing the Pocket 4K for not being an 8K camera, the complaining that it "only" has 13 stops of dynamic range but not bothering to shoot anything with it, yet criticizing the image quality.

And this is what passes for reviewers these days?

That said, the H4V stuff, as cool as it is, isn't all that useful right now, because it requires a Leia-equipped device to view it, and there's only one of those available... and it's expensive and rare, and doesn't photograph all that well, since the 3D effect requires stereo vision to work.

I don't know whether or not it works with VR goggles. If so, it would at least expand the potential viewership to include people with VR googles. If not, it's chicken and egg time...
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostMon Nov 05, 2018 6:07 pm

One of the Hydrogen team members mentioned that Facebook support is in the works. It might be what you just described, but since I was busy moving over the weekend, I didn't keep up with the forums. :)
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostWed Mar 13, 2019 9:42 am

Loos like my prediction was even more correct:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/099825097 ... om-website
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostWed Mar 13, 2019 10:16 pm

Nope... they're shifting the modules to the pro camera group, so Jarred Land is taking that part over.

Red didn't do a great job of getting the word out about it, with the usual result that a lot of people simply assumed the worst and the clickbait journals just ran with the assumption rather than finding out what was going on.
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostThu Mar 14, 2019 10:13 am

Let's wait longer then- I still assume that Hydrogen is going to be massive fail for RED (same as Redray was).
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostFri Mar 22, 2019 1:29 am

Something worth replying in off topic.

Unlike usual, I have a LOT of negative things to say, but I'm not going say much. They simply didn't listen and it simply wasn't a winning (delayed) product. The fact that this wonder 3D display that is supposed to be unlike other phone 3D displays (there is another 3D phone on gsmarena ROK.it or something, believe it or not) is not good outside of optimal viewing angle, makes it how much better? Plus this was supposed to have multiple different viewing zones (are they still there?). Unlike other people, I can accept it makes a good smart phone picture, but the whole setup needed to be better at the price. A few points.

I was hoping they would make a great success, now I care less, especially if they want fat modules. "Oh, Hi Tony, just wait, I have to unclip the phone from the module stack, its a bit big...No, no, we younger people aren't wimps...OK, yes you used to carry around a Motorola brick phone when you were young...".
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostFri Jul 26, 2019 10:21 am

From bad to crap:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/210724272 ... e-troubles

Philosophy by RED:
"We designed, we specced, we chosen manufacturer- but it's all their fault" :D

Never actually seen it before, but I lost any respect to RED:




And they still keep repeating that they spent millions of $ on storage R&D, custom firmware etc. Joke :D
Same story as claiming that their format is not Jpeg2000, but something unique out of this world.
Marketing 480 drive as 512 is just one step too far (at least for me and regardless if in reality this difference doesn't mean much).
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 8:18 am

I think they have cineform raw license. Maybe, they did spend millions on storage R&D, but now buy the parts found here.

Maybe there is something wrong with people to go along with a lot of things.
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