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Francesco Bollorino wrote:Carsten Sellberg wrote:Francesco Bollorino wrote: Starting from my dream:" If I could only afford this I'd buy, as 'Xmas present to my soul, a MAC PRO with 2 VEGA PRO DUO graphic cards, 24 core CPU and 256GB of ram" which is the EQUIVALENT PCWIN architecture to have almost the same power? This is the question not other...
Hi Francesco.
I liked you suggestion to buy a new PC first with a smaller graphics card. And then Upgrade to
two coming AMD future Graphics card interconnected by Infinity Fabric much better.
When I look at this link:
https://www.apple.com/it/mac-pro/specs/
Do I see that the coming Mac Pro have a 1400 Watt Power Supply and Apple rate it for 1280W continuous at 108-125V or 220-240V.
But in the same link they write that Radeon Pro Vega II Duo uses 500 watt each. And a CPU 300 Watt. That is a total of 1300 Watt. I wonder how Apple will power all the remaining components inside the new Mac Pro. Is a 1400 Watt Power Supply large enough?
Personally I don't like the new Xeon W3200 series CPU's Apple bought from Intel, for the new Mac Pro or the pricing of it. It uses an old server LGA3647 socket where the user can't exchange the CPU them self. CPU upgrades will be a job for Apple.
It was launched in June to a price of $1999 for a W-3245 16 core Xeon CPU:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14513/in ... e-30-lanes
Later Intel reduced some server CPU prices to nearly the half, and introduced the new Xeon W2200 with the normal LGA2066 socket in October:
Here is the price $1333 for a W-2295 18 core Xeon CPU and only $1112 for a W-2275 14 core Xeon CPU. And then can the user self upgrade the CPU, if they need a faster one. I wonder why Apple choosed the Xeon W3200 and its special socket:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14939/in ... tb-support
Later today do I expect to see the first independent Ryzen 3950X CPU reviews. While we are waiting will i like to show this link, where the rumored PassMark Benchmark Score for the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core CPU are faster than a Intel’s 28 Core Xeon-3175X CPU:
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-3950x- ... mark-leak/
Finally. As I see it, will the new Mac Pro be the first of a series of Mac Pro's. It uses the old generation Intel 14nm+++ CPU with PCI ver 3.0.
If you still are considering one, are you then sure you still want one of the first generation?
And NOT one of the NEXT generation which I expect in 2021 and to come with a larger Power Supply, better cooling and with a new 10nm Intel CPU, DDR5 RAM and PCI ver 5.0.
Regards Carsten.
Dear Carsten, thank you a lot.
I do think that, sorry to say, mac gears are too much pricie for my pocket, So I will go to WINPC. In order to save my money I do think that choising the best apart of GPU for my first step is the way to build the right PC for my needs as I do think that the mighty of AMD Ryzen 3950 - 70X CPUs is enough right now and the 2020 AMD GPU series will be the right choise for this "definitive" gear,
Using 5700 GPU for some month is not a problem I think as it is not a mere piece of iron... I cant wait always for the best as so I'd buy nothing for a long time
Dear Carsten,
I have to establish which kind of partime GPU I have to buy waitig for the 2020 GPUs from AND or NVIDIA. As you suggest I have to buy the simplest one but "ALSO" apt to be rebought by my supplier when I will buy the definitive ones. There is also the problem to buy a GPU apt to allow 4K editing
I really dont know what to buy or what suggest to my supplier/biulder in order to have no loss of money when he will buyback the GPU for the definitive change.
Have any suggestion?
THANK AND HAPPY NEW 2020 to all the friends of the Forum from Genoa Italy