Split the forum?

does make it sense to split the resolve big forum with fusion and fairlight sub forums?

Thoughts?

actually there is a fusion standalone subforum already...

this is becoming confusing...

The Fusion forum predates the V15. It's traditionally been focused on standalone Fusion. It'd be just a matter of policy for users concerned with Fusion page in Resolve to post in that forum.

I prefer split forums. As someone who never has to deal with audio, I don't want to have to sift through lots of Fairlight related posts, and worry that "page" specific discussions may get lost and buried in a unified forum.

This relates to my long-standing request to split up the user manual, as well. Even though all of these features are integrated into one app, I'd wager that most dedicated colorists are not generally interested in the Fairlight page, and Fairlight editors prob don't care much about the Fusion page.

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i remember the multi manual for softimage... 1996ish.....

(courtesy of http://www.artguglielmo.com/)

Put it all on one big page, and let "Search" sort it out. That's why I like the manual in one big file. The computer is supposed to do all the work.

Put it all on one big page, and let "Search" sort it out. That's why I like the manual in one big file. The computer is supposed to do all the work.

yes I understand the principle...

now try to search for LUTs or curves....

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i remember the multi manual for softimage... 1996ish.....

(courtesy of http://www.artguglielmo.com/)

i still have those, they are in a box with the matching Softimage|DS manuals... a whole lotta trees went down for that lot

The Fusion forum predates the V15. It's traditionally been focused on standalone Fusion. It'd be just a matter of policy for users concerned with Fusion page in Resolve to post in that forum.

I'm not sure why there should be separate forums for Davinci's Fusion versus standalone Fusion?

When I have a problem with nodes - even though I only use Davinci's Fusion - I'd hope the question can be seen by the standalone Fusion people, since they might have the answers.

This relates to my long-standing request to split up the user manual, as well. Even though all of these features are integrated into one app, I'd wager that most dedicated colorists are not generally interested in the Fairlight page, and Fairlight editors prob don't care much about the Fusion page.

Yeah, I've made the argument before that instead of one 3200-page manual, we need five much smaller manuals:

• config guide / installation
• Resolve conform / Editing
• Resolve Color
• Resolve Fusion
• Resolve Fairlight

I'd also like to see QuickStart guides for each. Looking at Walter's SoftImage manuals, it reminds me of Filmlight's approach to having three Baselight manuals: one for install/engineering/troubleshooting, one as an Operator's Guide with basically all the "how to's," and a Reference Guide that goes into every single knob, drop-down menu, control, and button in the software and on the panel.

I also completely agree with Walter that the problem with doing a general search for (say) LUT will kill you, because you'll never find the section you need. I've campaigned before (unsuccessfully) for an Index with hypertext for Resolve, but it hasn't happened. The advantage of an Index over a PDF search is that if you wanted to know (say) the effect of a LUT in ACES, you could go to the Index, look up ACES, then see if LUTs are mentioned somewhere in the subheads. It's doable, but it'd take a lot of time... especially for a 3200-page manual.

Place your bets on how long the manual for Resolve 16.5 / 17 will be in April...

Please breakout Fairlight. I have a very strange tidbits to deal with in it. There is enough there as a program to make it its own section.

Yeah, I just realized, the manual has no index!

But I still don't see the problem with search, as long as you can also search within the results. I can search for LUTs and a window with hundreds of results show up. Now, I seem to have a problem making acrobat search inside of that, but I blame the program (or myself for not knowing how to use it), not the manual, though I'm very disappointed there is no index, that's so weird, especially for something this big, but maybe an index would double its size. A hundred megabytes is already pretty impressive.

For the forum, I like one stop shopping there too. One window to rule them all. And you don't have issues with posting in the "wrong" forum either, getting tagged for being offtopic: Ohhh, you wanted arguments, I'm sorry, this forum is for abuse, you want the next one down

I personally prefer the current layout of the forums, but would really love to see the manual broken down in a similar way to Marc's suggestion.

Yeah, I've made the argument before that instead of one 3200-page manual, we need five much smaller manuals:

• config guide / installation
• Resolve conform / Editing
• Resolve Color
• Resolve Fusion
• Resolve Fairlight

Forum isn't an issue for me, but I'll vote for splitting the manual as well.

I've been doing that for myself in past years and after reading this thread I decided to publish my extracted versions online at open-source hosting GitHub: https://ltbits.github.io/davinci-resolve-manuals/
This might be useful for others as well.

It's interesting to see how from 754 pages (v10) it went to 3199 pages (v16) in just 5 years.

I'm just thinking that maybe the best course might be to create the manual with it's own viewing application that makes it much easier to search and define the areas of the manual to search through. And an index would be a great help as well.

A glossary of common/relevant search terms would also be very helpful. Right now, it seems only an exact match will create a "find". We should be able to search for something like "lut, display, output" without knowing it needs to be "display LUT" vs. "output LUT" or something like that.

It's interesting to see how from 754 pages (v10) it went to 3199 pages (v16) in just 5 years.

Hey, the version 6.0 Resolve manual was only 303 pages long.



...and for the record, it had an index.

It's interesting to see how from 754 pages (v10) it went to 3199 pages (v16) in just 5 years.

Hey, the version 6.0 Resolve manual was only 303 pages long.

Quite something... 10 years, 10 times the size.

I'm actually very grateful for BM having such a comprehensive manual, when I came on board during v12 it was the main learning source for me and still is now. Compared to a useless manual of another industry-standard suite in music production - Cubase, BM deserves an award of some kind.

[Peter Chamberlain]

Thank you. we now have more than a dozen people working on the manual so its value has a lot to do with all the experts we employ to continually update it.

It would be really nice to have context-sensitive help in the GUI, i.e. hit F1 and the manual opens at the chapter/page relevant to the tab, menu item, highlight or object currently in focus.

It would be really nice to have context-sensitive help in the GUI, i.e. hit F1 and the manual opens at the chapter/page relevant to the tab, menu item, highlight or object currently in focus.

I tend to doubt this can happen. In fact, show me any editing, sound, or VFX program in the world that can do this and I'll eat it. (The manual, not the program.)

I agree that it would be nice if we could search for different topics in context.

It would be really nice to have context-sensitive help in the GUI, i.e. hit F1 and the manual opens at the chapter/page relevant to the tab, menu item, highlight or object currently in focus.

That would be nice...

Somewhat related to this... The main DaVinci Resolve forum is a flood of "I clicked here and this happened", "where is the x button?", "Resolve crashes when I play music on iTunes", etc. and overshadows topics that might have some meaning in them (clear minority). This is partially problem of all forums by design, but here it's a much bigger issue.

Would it make sense to open a new sub-forum alongisde "...Beta Feedback", "...Feature Requests" and call it something like "DaVinci Resolve Issues & Bug Reports"? Even if not all members adhare to this in the beggining, a moderator will be able to move all those "flood topics" there and keep the main forum realatively clean for better discussions.

A subforum per Resolve page still gets my vote. I could be quite helpful in the Fusion page forum, while I would be quite useless in any other page. Now I skip the Resolve forum in general, because I get lost in all the various questions, so I don't even bother and stick to the Fusion standalone section.

+1 for a Fairlight sub forum.

Reasoning: The Fairlight module is becoming sufficiently compelling that you are going to get audio specialists (like me) as new & potential users. The overall user-base is so large that Resolve threads sink fast in days and are 90% video function related. Yes I know there is search, but browse has it's place too.

Thank you. we now have more than a dozen people working on the manual so its value has a lot to do with all the experts we employ to continually update it.

Peter,

As someone more Adobe based than Resolve, I must commend Blackmagic for the work out into the manuals and training materials.

I constantly harp at the Adobe staffers I know that Adobe should have equivalent materials. It sounds like their all-important M&E people don't agree.

I don't know how many hours I've poured into the BM manuals. Very useful tools they are!

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I just want to chime in with more praise for the Resolve manual. Thank you BlackMagic!

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