Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budget)

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Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budget)

PostTue Sep 11, 2018 5:41 pm

Hi everyone!

I'm currently looking into buying a monitor for color grading. The problem is I have a very tight budget and I am looking at these two monitors:

Dell UP2716D 27" and Dell U2718Q 27".

I'm having a hard time deciding which one would be best for me.

I decided that I need as much color accuracy of Rec 709 and DCI P3 as I can get since I do a lot of color grading for short films that end up at festivals and Rec 709 for commercial work.

I see in the description that UP2716D has greater color accuracy but the U2718Q has a greater resolution...

I'm just lost here. Can anybody guide me through this decision?

This are the links to both monitors:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/spanish/c/product/1194915-REG/dell_up2716d_27_widescreen_led.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/spanish/c/product/1352128-REG/dell_u2718q_ultrasharp_27_4k.html
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostTue Sep 11, 2018 7:19 pm

Niether. Get one of the Eizo CG range even if it's just HD resolution.
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostTue Sep 11, 2018 7:43 pm

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:Niether. Get one of the Eizo CG range even if it's just HD resolution.
Not sure that's a very helpful reply, since the cheapest Eizo CG starts at 3x the price of these two monitors.

"What's the best monitor bang for my buck in the ~$500 range" is a question that seems to be evergreen. I haven't been in the market recently, so I'm not sure what's good right now, but there surely must be some better-that-others options.
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostTue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 pm

for 500$, go to the store, get a lg or a Sony tv, calibrate as best as you can.
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostWed Sep 12, 2018 1:22 am

or go to craigslist and get the best panaplasma you can
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostThu Sep 13, 2018 12:46 am

One of those are QHD which doesn't seem useful for most grading, likely to be either 1080 or UHD. If you're doing Rec709 the extra color of Adobe or DCI won't be useful either. Better to get the 4K model of these two. If you're doing HDR work, then the extra color of DCI is useful, but you'd really want a display with HDR luminance levels of 1000 nits ideally.

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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostSun Sep 16, 2018 7:47 pm

I have seen prices on the older LG C6 OLEDs fall down to $1100-$1200, like new in the box. One of those calibrated for Rec709 will work fine.
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostSun Sep 16, 2018 8:15 pm

Marc Wielage wrote:I have seen prices on the older LG C6 OLEDs fall down to $1100-$1200, like new in the box. One of those calibrated for Rec709 will work fine.


Kind of big to put on your desk (we have a C7 and C8 55") and a lot of space.

Since we don't have to update our old workstations because of .braw I think we will buy a couple of BenQ's
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostSun Sep 16, 2018 11:03 pm

The current BenQ PV270 can be calibrated with Light Illusion so you will know what you are viewing is accurate but as the newer PV271 will have a 12G SDI input, you can go SDI all the way from your Decklink to avoid any associated HDMI converters and LUT boxes.
see: https://www.lightillusion.com/benq_manual.html
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 12:19 am

Another happy customer of BenQ over here. Their monitors are pretty well made and calibrated out of the box. Solid screens for color grading in my opinion. I have a BL2710PT monitor and it’s served me well over the years. Thinking of picking up another monitor, maybe the P2700Q (I think that’s the name). Anything outside of their gaming series is trustworthy from my experience.

They’ve also got some really nice looking projectors with decent range...

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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 1:10 am

We've BenQ's older 24" PG2401PT with on-board hardware calibration for Resolve Grading since it was released several years ago. We drive it from a 12G Decklink 4K SDI Pro PCIe card using an SDI to Display Port converter where we see a 10bit 4:4:4 display by using the Decklink's on-board 4K>HD downscale to grade 4K timelines.
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 6:56 am

LG 31um97

DCI 4K
True 10 bit panel
97% P3
99.5% Adobe RGB
Hardware Calibration

Doesn't do HDR though
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 9:15 am

MikeRochefort wrote:Another happy customer of BenQ over here. Their monitors are pretty well made and calibrated out of the box. Solid screens for color grading in my opinion. I have a BL2710PT monitor and it’s served me well over the years. Thinking of picking up another monitor, maybe the P2700Q (I think that’s the name). Anything outside of their gaming series is trustworthy from my experience.

They’ve also got some really nice looking projectors with decent range...

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They lost my trust by calling BenQ SW271 monitor HDR even if it's doing 350 nits max. You can attach those fake ''lables" for gamers, but not for pro range.
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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 12:51 pm

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:They lost my trust by calling BenQ SW271 monitor HDR even if it's doing 350 nits max. You can attach those fake ''lables" for gamers, but not for pro range.



Did you reach out to their support and ask them why they’re labeling the monitor as HDR capable? I’m not an HDR expert by any means, isn’t it 600+ nits the goal?

I wouldn’t knock all of their products just because they labeled a product HDR and doesn’t do the nit level you’d expect. Their SDR products are fantastic.

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Re: Which monitor should I buy for Color grading? (on a budg

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 1:39 pm

Yes, some BenQ monitors are quite good for Rec.709 work.
No idea why (well expect pure marketing crap) they put HDR sticker on monitor which peaks at 350 nits. It uses edge lighting (at least according to tomshardware), so no way it can deliver 1000 nits across full screen and there is no way to control/increase peak at windowed mode (you need zoned or per pixel backlight for this), so 350 nits is all what it can do.

Incoming PV271 does 1000 nits peak at least per paper, so this can be called HDR.

BenQ SW271 may be good for SDR Rec.709 work, but at 1100$ it's not cheap. At this price range I would rather get HD Eizo CG range which is not much more expensive.

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