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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostWed Feb 13, 2019 5:35 pm

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gbuster1a wrote:Ordered the BMPCC4K on Jan 7th from Adorama. Just received an email stating it is being shipped today!


This has me excited. I ordered on Jan 17th from Adorama. Hoping I'll see mine soon!


May not be. I just ordered my camera today, and called B&H and Adorama. B&H I was behind over 1,000 people, and at Adorama, the guy told me I was behind around 570 people. I decided to order from Tape Central in Columbus, Ohio. They had '0' people waiting, except for me now... :)


Wow. Funny, when I asked Adorama last week, they said they couldn't tell me my place in line. Is this camera going to put a lot more indie film makers on the scene? I wonder if Youtube will be flooded with short films made by the BMPCC4K?
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Re: BMPC4k Backorder - B&H - Any updates?

PostWed Feb 13, 2019 7:04 pm

Chris Shivers wrote:Remember it just not three places selling the pocket 4k, there are a lot of smaller places selling them too. And it’s first come first serve, so they are most likely waiting in que.


Yeah, I guess I just assumed a larger reseller would have more stock. I don't mind waiting, just want a sense of how long I'm going to have to wait...
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PostWed Feb 13, 2019 7:27 pm

SuperMario wrote:Yeah, I guess I just assumed a larger reseller would have more stock. I don't mind waiting, just want a sense of how long I'm going to have to wait...


The larger resellers get more orders. I don't think anyone's been able to maintain much stock of this camera; they keep getting snapped up. :)
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PostWed Feb 13, 2019 11:08 pm

If those numbers are true I think it's safe to say micro 4/3 will be around a while

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PostWed Feb 13, 2019 11:11 pm

Colourberry wrote:If those numbers are true I think it's safe to say micro 4/3 will be around a while

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I don't think they would lie about the number of orders they told me.. If anything, that would discourage anyone from actually ordering from them. I was a bit shocked. I knew B&H and Adorama would have a backlog of orders, but I never realized it was that many.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 12:02 am

This is going to be a huge boost so Davinci Resolve too. I think there was already a decent sized migration to Resolve going on but awareness of how good Resolve is will really increase after that many cameras with Resolve licenses get out there.

Loving Resolve is just a matter of using it and I cant picture someone buying the camera and not trying it.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 12:10 am

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May not be. I just ordered my camera today, and called B&H and Adorama. B&H I was behind over 1,000 people, and at Adorama, the guy told me I was behind around 570 people. I decided to order from Tape Central in Columbus, Ohio. They had '0' people waiting, except for me now... :)



So let’s pretend that BMD ship 500 cameras to the US for January.

They send 300 cameras to BH, 150 to ardoma and the rest go to other US dealers that have done single digit orders.

300 BH photo customers that ordered in October get their cameras. 1 customer who ordered from a dealer in January who got two cameras gets their camera.

1 guys comes here and says yay I got my camera after 4 weeks !

700 BH photo customers get onto this forum to complain how BMD must have a manufacturing delay and some guy who finds a dealer that gets two cameras they ordered at the same time BH ordered their 1000 cameras for January and gets a camera before those that ordered earlier than they did from BH photo

See how this works ?

BMD don’t track which customer orders first. This is how the distribution works and why it seems so uneven.

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I’d also say it’s hit and miss to believe any reported numbers from a dealer. They also have an interest in keeping that to themselves in light of above.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 12:38 am

Absolutely agree. Somehow I've been position 6 at Dragon image for almost 5 months.

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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 3:47 am

silaradams wrote: I knew B&H and Adorama would have a backlog of orders, but I never realized it was that many.


I think that BMD themselves have been overwhelmed by how popular this camera is. I think they've already shipped many units, it's just that there's so many back orders and more and more are jumping on....demand is actually going up.

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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 3:48 am

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Yeah, I guess I just assumed a larger reseller would have more stock. I don't mind waiting, just want a sense of how long I'm going to have to wait...


They do, but they also have much much longer pre-order lists.

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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 4:13 am

John Brawley wrote:I think that BMD themselves have been overwhelmed by how popular this camera is. I think they've already shipped many units, it's just that there's so many back orders and more and more are jumping on....demand is actually going up.

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Probably because they're seeing it, and footage shot with it, and people talking about it...
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I also suspect many more waited in April until the camera was released in September and they could see sample footage online. Perhaps after BRAW is released for the BMPCC4K, there will be another uptick in orders. All of this waiting so people know announced features and anticipated features such as BRAW actually became delivered features.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 4:25 am

rick.lang wrote:I also suspect many more waited in April until the camera was released in September and they could see sample footage online.


Quite likely. The negative comments that were flying around the internet after it was first revealed was amazing. Yes, there were good comments as well, but the negative ones perhaps increased after reviews started coming out. How some of the reviewers were selected still baffles me, they should have stuck to DSLR reviews and not cinema cameras.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 5:33 am

I've never pre-ordered a camera in my life and I've bought a lot of them for my small company over the years.

For a number of reasons, I believed Blackmagiic were going take things to another level regarding a small form factor camera with the new Pocket - and we really utilze small cameras with our model. So, I pre-ordered two from B&H literally minutes after Grant's presentation and got them in the first shipment.

Even with my expectations, I was amazed at how much they put into the P4K, feature-wize.
After a few months of producing with them, I continue to be blown away by how good an image they provide and how brilliant the interface is.

I'm not surprised at all that they're having difficulty keeping up with demand.
They deserve big ass kudos, not criticism.

But of course, I'd feel frustrated if I were waiting for mine.
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Australian Image wrote:Quite likely. The negative comments that were flying around the internet after it was first revealed was amazing. Yes, there were good comments as well, but the negative ones perhaps increased after reviews started coming out. How some of the reviewers were selected still baffles me, they should have stuck to DSLR reviews and not cinema cameras.


They probably got chosen based on their follower count. I don't think that most dSLR users will be able to make great use of a Pocket 4K. It's not designed for videography, it's designed for craftspeople. It will produce decent results if it's pointed at scenes lit by bozos, but excellent results with scenes lit by cinematographers.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 8:26 am

Jim Giberti wrote:I've never pre-ordered a camera in my life and I've bought a lot of them for my small company over the years.

For a number of reasons, I believed Blackmagiic were going take things to another level regarding a small form factor camera with the new Pocket - and we really utilze small cameras with our model. So, I pre-ordered two from B&H literally minutes after Grant's presentation and got them in the first shipment.

Even with my expectations, I was amazed at how much they put into the P4K, feature-wize.
After a few months of producing with them, I continue to be blown away by how good an image they provide and how brilliant the interface is.

I'm not surprised at all that they're having difficulty keeping up with demand.
They deserve big ass kudos, not criticism.

But of course, I'd feel frustrated if I were waiting for mine.


Very well put, Jim.
Although I am guilty of having pre-ordered the first BMCC after it was announced because I had the feeling this camera would be a game changer at that price point - a promise that RED never delivered - they just priced their cameras higher and higher after the RED ONE.
So because of some initial problems with the BMCC I decided not rush and pre-order the UM46K. I only ordered it after firmware 4.0 with the new UI was introduced which was again a game changer in camera UIs. I had the same feeling like when I saw the first iPhone and how iOS worked.

And for the PCC4K I had enough confidence in BMD to pre-order it immediately while watching the presentation. Since I got the camera in October I've used it constantly in my productions and everyone is blown away how brilliant the resulting images are. My only regret is that I didn't pre-order two of them.
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Rakesh Malik wrote:I don't think that most dSLR users will be able to make great use of a Pocket 4K. It's not designed for videography, it's designed for craftspeople. It will produce decent results if it's pointed at scenes lit by bozos, but excellent results with scenes lit by cinematographers.


It's both.
I am far from a cinematographer. I loved the original pocket for it's quality versus price.
Same with the P4K, which is even easier to use.
I mostly shoot on a photography tripod, with available light. Why would I pay more for a lesser codec by Panasonic or Sony?
I think the steep learning curve on the Pocket is often exaggerated.
Sure, I'm not making footage for Netflix, or for commercial clients with their strict standards, but I still value flexibility and quality and the Pocket 4K delivers on both...at a cheaper price than a lot of the lesser cameras.
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PostThu Feb 14, 2019 11:02 am

Chris Whitten wrote:I think the steep learning curve on the Pocket is often exaggerated.
Sure, I'm not making footage for Netflix, or for commercial clients with their strict standards, but I still value flexibility and quality and the Pocket 4K delivers on both...at a cheaper price than a lot of the lesser cameras.


Chris, you make some very valid points here. I feel much the same about the 4K, even though I have yet to receive mine. That menu system looks the easiest I have ever seen (helped in no small measure by the large screen).
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Rakesh Malik wrote:They probably got chosen based on their follower count. I don't think that most dSLR users will be able to make great use of a Pocket 4K...


That must be true of some of those who may be making a living from reviewing gear. Yet we also had good material produced by some that I appreciated. I do think BMD will be more judicious in their selection of reviewers in the future.

They don’t have to be dyed-in-the-wool fanboys, but someone who will understand how to do good work with the features would be nice. When criticisms posted to YouTube show their ignorance of the camera’s capabilities, BMD must have cringed.


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PostFri Feb 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Here is a quote from B&H regarding my frustration with being in the dark about not knowing when my camera will ship:

"You recently completed a B&H Customer Service Satisfaction Survey and gave us valuable feedback concerning your shopping experience.
I am sorry about the delay with this order. We have been working diligently and persistently with the manufacturer for a delivery date for this item. Unfortunately, the manufacturer has been heavily back ordered and at each contact the delivery date has been moved. As of today, regretfully, we still have not received delivery information."

This tells me they have not been shipping units regularly to the retailers like Blackmagic has said. Anyone from Blackmagic care to comment?
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PostFri Feb 15, 2019 5:47 pm

Every store is on a first come first serve, there are way more than 1 or 2 stores selling the pocket 4k. As soon as B&H put in their order they are on a waiting que, until they’re are next up to receive their orders. That’s why I never ordered from b&h it was too many people ordering from them.
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JordanMcgehee wrote:
This tells me they have not been shipping units regularly to the retailers like Blackmagic has said. Anyone from Blackmagic care to comment?


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Anyone received a camera from Dragon Image in Australia yet?
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PostMon Feb 18, 2019 12:48 am

I ordered in January and was told today I will get it in the 2 week of April
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PostMon Feb 18, 2019 12:57 pm

If cameras are produced and sent regularly, why are official resellers in Poland saying that production has been halted. And some of them haven't received even one camera since the beginning of January.
There's something wrong with communication Blackmagic. I think it's time to look for an alternative solution.
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Jaroslaw Frybes wrote:If cameras are produced and sent regularly, why are official resellers in Poland saying that production has been halted. And some of them haven't received even one camera since the beginning of January.
There's something wrong with communication Blackmagic. I think it's time to look for an alternative solution.


Official resellers are often telling customers just rumors to make them shut off asking questions all the time over and over again. They don't like to say "I don't know" and it is easier to tell the customer that there is a production problem/halt.

This is the official word direct out of someones keyboard who should know what is going on - because he is the product manager and father of the PCC4k:

Kristian Lam wrote:Hey guys,

Take it easy. :)

Production ebbs and flows depending on parts availability and factory closures due to holidays etc. There is NO deliberate production halt. The camera is quite popular and we're building as fast as we can.
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Jaroslaw Frybes wrote:If cameras are produced and sent regularly, why are official resellers in Poland saying that production has been halted. And some of them haven't received even one camera since the beginning of January.
There's something wrong with communication Blackmagic. I think it's time to look for an alternative solution.
I was told the exact same thing in Bangkok and Australia.

Plus the other reports of the same thing here it's not a rumour.

Repeating myself now but the rate that Dragon image were receiving the camera they expected it mine to arrive early Jan and and then suddenly they said April. They had been told April.

EVERYWHERE has been told April.

And Bangkok said April too.

So if there was no stoppage why does everywhere report April now? What's magical about April

I'm over it.

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Jaroslaw Frybes wrote:What's magical about April Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk


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PostMon Feb 18, 2019 4:45 pm

Just spoke to 3D Broadcast and they have received 1 so far this year, the rep seemed to "know" that 12 have been received in the UK total (as in 12 units entered the country) this calendar year (not counting ones stuck in transit over Xmas) and that Holden the UK distributor for BM has told all of the companies selling units to customers not to expect any more until March.
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PostMon Feb 18, 2019 6:07 pm

Simple, they are building cameras in Jan/Feb, then shipping them in March. BM seems to do their cameras in “batches” then ship them out, once they get a full container. They apparently do not send them out in ones or even by the dozen.
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Colourberry wrote:So if there was no stoppage why does everywhere report April now? What's magical about April


They're probably just trying to push their customers toward stuff they can sell immediately and are getting tired of people wanting something they can't sell, and aren't getting much information from BMD.

It's likely that BMD is sending its cameras out in batches because it's sending them to distributors by boat; keep in mind that the price tag leads to some pretty thin margins, so BMD is probably streamlining whatever it can... and it's normal for a production run to get sent out as a batch on a single shipment. A *lot* of companies do that... have their manufacturing partners run out a batch, stuff the batch in crates, ship the crates overseas (it's efficient, reliable, and economical).

Sure, FedEx is also efficient and reliable, and a lot faster... but also a lot more expensive.

You want a $5000 camera for $1300 with a free copy of the dominant color grading solution + a free professional VFX, NLE, and DAW solution?
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To your point, Rakesh, the margin has to be thin or possibly even at a loss (that maybe they didnt anticipate but cant go back on now)? I wonder if we will read about this in a couple years... how they grossly underestimated the desire for this camera and could have sold it for $3K and people would be snapping it up and made a lot more money, and possibly that they maybe went way too low on the cost of this. Like someone else said, I feel like part of the reason for such a low cost with the free Resolve is the plan to get Resolve out in more hands, which I suspect will happen. A lot of people buy this camera and will try it, and many will potentially convert. But some will buy it because of the addition of the $300 software in the price, with plans to use Resolve anyway.

Now they just need to keep Fusion enticing enough with strong updates to its capabilities to be competitive with AE and the other options in the market.
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I just confirmed from my retailer there has been a shortage of parts for the camera and that they have not been given a date. They have not received any since January. They said this has something to do with the Chineses New Year (although that was 15 days ago so I don't see how that is relevant anymore). Someone from Blackmagic care to confirm?
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Justin Jackson wrote:To your point, Rakesh, the margin has to be thin or possibly even at a loss (that maybe they didnt anticipate but cant go back on now)?


I seriously doubt that BMD is selling anything at a loss except its software. It's been around for quite a while; it knows its costs and margins.

Like someone else said, I feel like part of the reason for such a low cost with the free Resolve is the plan to get Resolve out in more hands, which I suspect will happen. A lot of people buy this camera and will try it, and many will potentially convert.

The free Resolve license is both a benefit and a carrot. The carrot part comes from enticing users to invest in additional Resolve specific hardware, like for Mac users the egpu line, and for everyone various panels and I/O boxes...

Now they just need to keep Fusion enticing enough with strong updates to its capabilities to be competitive with AE and the other options in the market.


BMD's already passed that bar. It's now up to Adobe to update AE to catch up; while the learning curve in Fusion is higher than in AE, as far as capabilities go, it's already competitive with Nuke. Admittedly Nuke still has an edge, but look at the user opinions of it... it's a very good bet that any shop relying on Nuke Studio right now is eyeing Resolve and already debating the transition.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were several Nuke shops out there already trying it out and making requests to the BMD folks.

And it's very obvious that BMD has been listening to pros using Resolve, so...
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Justin Jackson wrote:To your point, Rakesh, the margin has to be thin or possibly even at a loss (that maybe they didnt anticipate but cant go back on now)? I wonder if we will read about this in a couple years... how they grossly underestimated the desire for this camera and could have sold it for $3K and people would be snapping it up and made a lot more money, and possibly that they maybe went way too low on the cost of this.


I doubt that very much. I wouldn't have bought it had it cost US$3000 and I suspect much the same would have applied to many others. That US$3000 would have had it competing with far too many other cameras and it would have been lambasted by everyone for being too expensive and offering too little.

Those criticisms about EVF, moveable LCD, IBIS etc would have become very severe indeed and potentially justified at that price point. Blackmagic hasn't grown the way it has by making losses. To stay in business you have to make a profit.
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Agreed. It’s nice to be competitive but it’s sweet to be able to undercut everyone for the features offered. There are several features missing, true, but at that ridiculous price, you concentrate your attention on the marvelous camera you’ve got in your hand... and consider adding another.


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rick.lang wrote:Agreed. It’s nice to be competitive but it’s sweet to be able to undercut everyone for the features offered. There are several features missing, true, but at that ridiculous price, you concentrate your attention on the marvelous camera you’ve got in your hand... and consider adding another.


Exactly... I'm still eyeing one of these as a gimbal/b-cam.
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PostThu Feb 21, 2019 6:04 pm

JordanMcgehee wrote:I just confirmed from my retailer there has been a shortage of parts for the camera and that they have not been given a date. They have not received any since January. They said this has something to do with the Chineses New Year (although that was 15 days ago so I don't see how that is relevant anymore). Someone from Blackmagic care to confirm?


Just talked to BM and they say that there is not a parts shortage. Here is what I think, either BM is lying about the parts shortage or their distributors who ship the cams to the retailers are lying by saying that there is a part shortage and that is why they can't ship them more cameras. Either way, BM is taking a HUGE PR hit here. I hope they learn from this in the future.
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 6:32 pm

JordanMcgehee wrote:Just talked to BM and they say that there is not a parts shortage. Here is what I think, either BM is lying about the parts shortage or their distributors who ship the cams to the retailers are lying by saying that there is a part shortage and that is why they can't ship them more cameras. Either way, BM is taking a HUGE PR hit here. I hope they learn from this in the future.


Black Magic does have a reputation for keeping too much to itself, but not for lying.

Unfortunately though, it doesn't have much control over what its distributors say; that puts BMD in a bit of a bind here.

In the long run though it will make no difference whatsoever; the products will speak for themselves, and let's be serious, this is a MAJOR first for the film industry -- especially when BMD releases braw for the Pocket 4K -- that it's now possible for under $5K if you're economical with your lenses, a FULL KIT that is basically Hollywood level stuff, but smaller.

While I'm sure it's great for vloggers, it's overkill for them. It's a great option for independent filmmakers, and as such is a guaranteed winner.
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 7:11 pm

Yes, I agree Rakesh, and a Nikon Z6 is a better choice for a Vlogger. :roll:
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 7:38 pm

I reckon all those who seem to be hell bent on bagging Blackmagic at every opportunity really need to just walk away and get something else. I'm sure you'll find some 'honourable' manufacturer that will satisfy your every need and relieve the stress that's consuming your lives.
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PostThu Feb 21, 2019 8:37 pm

Denny Smith wrote:Yes, I agree Ramesh, and a Nikon Z6 is a better choice for a Vlogger. :roll:
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Who's Ramesh?

Let's face it; vloggers would be fine with entry level camcorders. Those who are vlogging with cameras like Pocket 4K's are mostly wasting them -- though there are some vloggers who are actually making films, and just vlogging to build audience... not quite the same demographic.
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PostThu Feb 21, 2019 8:51 pm

And then there are vloggers that use RED cameras.
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PostThu Feb 21, 2019 8:59 pm

Australian Image wrote:And then there are vloggers that use RED cameras.


Just showing off the popularity of their channels, I suppose...
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 10:54 pm

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Denny Smith wrote:Yes, I agree Ramesh, and a Nikon Z6 is a better choice for a Vlogger.


Who's Ramesh?


He's the brother of Demy Sniff :D
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PostFri Feb 22, 2019 2:11 am

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Denny Smith wrote:Yes, I agree Ramesh, and a Nikon Z6 is a better choice for a Vlogger. :roll:
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Who's Ramesh?

Let's face it; vloggers would be fine with entry level camcorders. Those who are vlogging with cameras like Pocket 4K's are mostly wasting them -- though there are some vloggers who are actually making films, and just vlogging to build audience... not quite the same demographic.


Sorry, fixed my Post, my IPad keeps trying to second guess names, and I missed it. :oops:

Yes entry level camcorders would do the trick, but a lot of these “bloggers” seem to feel a DSLR style camera will make their “content” better, instead of trying to improve their skills. Some of the new Smart Phones would even work.
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostFri Feb 22, 2019 2:27 am

Denny Smith wrote:Sorry, fixed my Post, my IPad keeps trying to second guess names, and I missed it. :oops:


Ah yes, defeated by the auto-incorrector... :)

I figured it was something silly like that.

Yes entry level camcorders would do the trick, but a lot of these “bloggers” seem to feel a DSLR style camera will make their “content” better, instead of trying to improve their skills. Some of the new Smart Phones would even work.
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Yes, exactly, They don't need professional digital cinema cameras for their vlogs, since even a lot of the ones shot with professional cameras usually look like they were shot with low end phones :)
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PostFri Feb 22, 2019 2:30 am

Yes Rakesh, they sure do. A small simple,camera like a Nikon 1 V1, V2, and the V3 (with a tilting screen) would do the trick, small compact and does a decent job on its 1-inch sensor. They would save $ (a slightly used Nikon 1 is $200-600), and the rest of us interesting in shooting quality work might be able to get a BMPCC 4K sooner, by getting them out of the que.
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostFri Feb 22, 2019 2:34 am

At least they help to lower the camera prices by adding to the sales volume ;)
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Re: BMPCC4K start shipping

PostFri Feb 22, 2019 2:38 am

Yes, but I think have a more manageable production on the new the new Pocket 4K, by raising it’s initial cost, the existing low price for its incredible quality image has made the camera too popular, more popular than the original Pocket camera. Perhaps BMD should have listed the price at $1995, with Resolve or an option of $1695 without Resolve, and that may have reduced the demand a little.
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