"No Card" Issue BMPCC

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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostFri Mar 15, 2019 9:04 pm

Based on the previous comments I got myself Samsung Evo card and made some test in RAW with original BMPCC. Card is recognised and works with Raw. I think I see some minor jittering in the footage when panning but I need to test it some more. So far all good.

EDIT: After few days testing. I get randomly dropped frames red dot while recording RAW or Prores. Sometimes I get it right after starting recording and another time no dropped frames at all. So Samsung is not very reliable.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostSun Mar 17, 2019 3:32 pm

I'm having the same issue, but I think many people are wasting time looking into the SD card as the issue. It may be true that the V30 Sandisk cards have an issue. But with mine it's completely different. Have had two 64GB cards I'd used for years, then got a 128GB card I used for over a year. All cards had no issue until recently all cards will not be recognized by the camera, "No Card". However sometimes they will all work and be recognized, tried with all sources of Power, Battery, AC power, Both, and result is always same. Sometimes cards work, sometimes they just don't. Only consistent thing I've seen is that once the card is recognized, "Ready" status. Then if I turn the camera off or on, switch battery or AC power, card stays working, until I take it out and put another card in. Then have to try about 15 to 20 times before camera recognizes card. It must be firmware or camera issue. Which I'm not surprised, because I've used it a lot, and in very hot conditions, and even left it running for long times.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostTue Mar 19, 2019 12:11 am

I'm having success recording RAW 23.98 with the 256GB Samsung EVO Plus I recently ordered off Amazon. I recorded a few shorter clips, then recorded 15 minutes straight, then another few short clips. I did NOT get the dropped frames warning icon, and everything looked fine in Resolve. Not the most thorough testing, but everything seems fine so far.

I had previously tried several 128 GB Sandisk Extreme Pros, then a 128 Samsung EVO (not plus, just regular), and they all said "No Card" every time.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostMon Mar 25, 2019 2:43 pm

halliku wrote:Based on the previous comments I got myself Samsung Evo card and made some test in RAW with original BMPCC. Card is recognised and works with Raw. I think I see some minor jittering in the footage when panning but I need to test it some more. So far all good.

EDIT: After few days testing. I get randomly dropped frames red dot while recording RAW or Prores. Sometimes I get it right after starting recording and another time no dropped frames at all. So Samsung is not very reliable.


Could you specify the card capacity (128, 256, 512 Gb?) I have tried the 128 Gb version, which started dropping frames after some tens of seconds record time both on raw and prores. The user who reported successful results used 256 Gb card so maybe that is the difference.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostMon Mar 25, 2019 2:47 pm

The 128gb version of the Samsung evo plus is recognized by the BMPCC, but is not reliable. It does work in the BMPCC 4K, though with lower performance than Sandisk Extreme Pro.

The one(?) report of success with the Samsung 256gb version should probably be viewed with caution.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostTue Mar 26, 2019 7:41 pm

Vitafons wrote:
halliku wrote:Based on the previous comments I got myself Samsung Evo card and made some test in RAW with original BMPCC. Card is recognised and works with Raw. I think I see some minor jittering in the footage when panning but I need to test it some more. So far all good.

EDIT: After few days testing. I get randomly dropped frames red dot while recording RAW or Prores. Sometimes I get it right after starting recording and another time no dropped frames at all. So Samsung is not very reliable.


Could you specify the card capacity (128, 256, 512 Gb?) I have tried the 128 Gb version, which started dropping frames after some tens of seconds record time both on raw and prores. The user who reported successful results used 256 Gb card so maybe that is the difference.


I have 128GB Samsung Evo and this is indeed not reliable. In addition to dropped frames my camera sometimes freezes during recording (will not end recording unless I turn off camera) and also will not start recording after I hit record button.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostThu Apr 25, 2019 4:37 pm

After testing the Samsung Evo Plus 256GB (that should work better than the 128GB version) I must say, that this card is CRAP with BMPCC... very pity!!

I tried just ProRes HQ and just after recording about 34 minutes, the card drop frames and bmpcc shows red bang, just in the place where the rec glows. So about 34 minutes everything was ok, but everything i try to record now, drop frames.

What is it?? Cache problem?? Seems to be something like that.

The Sony 64GB i used, had no problems with ProRes HQ, but it can not record more than 30 minutes.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostWed May 01, 2019 5:34 pm

I looked up the model number of the 128GB SD card that I've been using successfully for the last two years and it says the following on the invoice:

SDSDXXG-128G-GN4IN SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 95MB/Sec SDXC Card (bought 02/03/2017)

Now, that's exactly the model we're told doesn't work - prefixed with SDSDXXG. The card itself has the following markings: SDXC, I, V30, 3, 10. On the back it has the following: BP1632150824G. I found the box for the card and it says SDSDXXG-128G-GN4IN. The date on the box is 2016.

SanDisk told me that the controller has changed. Finding out when it changed might help because there's always old stock kicking around.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostMon May 06, 2019 12:24 pm

Can anyone confirm that the UHS II 300 mb/s cards that SanDisk is recommending for affected BMD cameras and models (This card: https://shop.sandisk.com/store?Action=l ... D=11442500) are actually working in the original Pocket, Micro Cinema Camera, and/or Video Assist?

I know they're expensive, but if they actually work that's good news. Denny mentioned earlier that UHS II cards wouldn't be fast enough in UHS I devices but I did see a post from one person who said they were working. It would be good to have confirmation.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostMon May 06, 2019 2:11 pm

I don't believe BMD has ever recommended replacement cards for affected devices. To date, the only half-reliable reports of success are with the Sony SD cards, the ones equivalent in performance to the Extreme Pros.
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Re: "No Card" Issue BMPCC

PostMon May 06, 2019 3:20 pm

John Paines wrote:I don't believe BMD has ever recommended replacement cards for affected devices. To date, the only half-reliable reports of success are with the Sony SD cards, the ones equivalent in performance to the Extreme Pros.


Right, BMD isn't recommending replacement cards, but SanDisk is. See this post viewtopic.php?f=18&t=90728#p505736
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