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PostMon Apr 15, 2019 8:08 pm

Looks good but costs almost the same as the bmpc4k



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PostMon Apr 15, 2019 8:31 pm

I saw that on a NAB video and it's not small. An opportunity still goes missing.
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PostMon Apr 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Australian Image wrote:I saw that on a NAB video and it's not small. An opportunity still goes missing.


Hope someone makes just a simple EVF just to see without anything else.

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PostMon Apr 15, 2019 9:10 pm

That's all that I want, a HDMI input, a power in socket, dioptre adjustment and nothing more. And make it small.
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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 11:15 am

Australian Image wrote:That's all that I want, a HDMI input, a power in socket, dioptre adjustment and nothing more. And make it small.


You mean like the old Leica ones https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1046771-REG/leica_18767_visoflex_typ_020_electronic.html but with the extra addition of a HDMI cable? I hated those on a camera but could be useful on a BMPCC4K.
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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 3:49 pm

But that’s only LCD and add $600 to incorporate a microOLED and HDMI/SDI and you’re back to the EVFs about the cost of the camera. There is the option of only buying with the connection you want such as HDMI (I could see myself wanting that too). But one day you’re likely going to wish you had SDI.


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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 5:45 pm

I contacted them and suggested the simpler evf they liked the idea and said they will have it.
I told them of the bmp4k specific need.
I could also use it with my fs700 and maybe other cameras.

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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 8:25 pm

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Australian Image wrote:That's all that I want, a HDMI input, a power in socket, dioptre adjustment and nothing more. And make it small.


You mean like the old Leica ones https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1046771-REG/leica_18767_visoflex_typ_020_electronic.html but with the extra addition of a HDMI cable? I hated those on a camera but could be useful on a BMPCC4K.


Yes. That's a copy of the Olympus/Panasonic EVF used with their earlier cameras and I've mentioned it before.
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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 8:30 pm

rick.lang wrote:But that’s only LCD and add $600 to incorporate a microOLED and HDMI/SDI and you’re back to the EVFs about the cost of the camera. There is the option of only buying with the connection you want such as HDMI (I could see myself wanting that too). But one day you’re likely going to wish you had SDI.


No it wouldn't. It already connects electronically to a camera output, via what is almost a mini-HDMI port. All this does is overrides the camera's LCD for cameras that only have an LCD. These are available with 2.4MP micro-LCDs which provide a fantastic image. Epson is/was making these for many mirrorless camera manufacturers.

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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 9:26 pm

Have it your way, but I want my basic PVF (Pocket Viewfinder) to have the microOLED screen rather than the LCD. I expect that model option to be more than $599.


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PostTue Apr 16, 2019 9:33 pm

rick.lang wrote:Have it your way, but I want my basic PVF (Pocket Viewfinder) to have the microOLED screen rather than the LCD. I expect that model option to be more than $599.


Don't care, I'll have whatever's the most affordable and having used these EVFs for years, I'm more than happy with the LCD versions. It would only be used for focusing in bright conditions, so everything else is irrelevant.
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PostWed Apr 17, 2019 4:59 am

Australian Image wrote:
rick.lang wrote:Have it your way, but I want my basic PVF (Pocket Viewfinder) to have the microOLED screen rather than the LCD. I expect that model option to be more than $599.


Don't care, I'll have whatever's the most affordable and having used these EVFs for years, I'm more than happy with the LCD versions. It would only be used for focusing in bright conditions, so everything else is irrelevant.


I am totally with you on this.
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PostWed Apr 17, 2019 5:35 pm

Yes, those type of EVFs used the cameras LCD controller/processor, which was setupmfor both screens, but this was an either/or setup, only one worked at a time. They did work well, if you had good vision and did not wear glasses. But as I got older, and my glasses did not allow them to work very well, hard to see the screen, and poor eye relief, etc. Once you start using a larger pro type EVF, especially an OLED, there is no going back. Anything else is a compromise. I need the EVF to pull accurate focus, and these small Micro EVFs do not work for me to do that. But, each to their own, and it is nice to have choices
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PostWed Apr 17, 2019 8:41 pm

That's all I'm asking for; give us an option. I still use my mirrorless cameras all the time, need glasses and don't find the EVFs an issue.

The simple fact is that all mirrorless cameras, even the most expensive Hasselblads, use these types of EVFs and millions of users find them excellent.
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PostWed Apr 17, 2019 11:56 pm

For me i'd rather focus through an eyecup than on a monitor

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PostThu Apr 18, 2019 2:02 am

I suspect that this Pocket4K will continue to sell well and someone will step up with the right features for a reasonable price. I know the Pocket4K screen will be my least favourite operational behaviour. I’ve used a jacket over the URSA Mini 4.6K and found it often awkward to keep in position and access camera controls. Maybe BMD will come up with something. The numbers of sales might warrant the PVF development but I realize it’s so hard to predict the uptake and that might make it more expensive than it should be to encourage buyers. It needs to be under $1,000 for an HD OLED option if that’s even feasible.


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PostThu Apr 18, 2019 2:18 am

US$1000 (AU$1400) is nearly the price of a new BMPCC4K in Australia, very few would consider buying an EVF at that price, I'd rather buy a second BPCC4K or an Olympus 12-100mm f4 lens.

It has to be priced around AU$350+/- (US$250) to be of interest to any great majority. Remember, we're looking for an EVF that does nothing more than transmit what the camera LCD shows. If I can buy a 7" 2200nit field monitor with all the bells and whistles for AU$350, why can't I buy a simple EVF for same?
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PostThu Apr 18, 2019 5:35 am

Some people want OLED, yet others want LCD:
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