Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutions

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Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutions

PostWed Oct 02, 2024 4:14 pm

Hello,

Is there any Firmware update coming to the 6KFF ?
I’m using 1.5 Anamorphic to get a 2:1 extraction.

The fact the the 6k FF can’t de squeeze 1.5x in 6:5 and 4:3 s35 is a really pain in terms of monitoring (both on camera and on monitors).


I heard that the Pyxis will get all desqueeze at different resolution, will this come soon the the 6K FF ?


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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostMon Oct 07, 2024 8:35 pm

Yes, please help us there blackmagic. I thought the pyxis was basically the same camera and I saw that its already applied in the newest software. I have a lot of anamorphic glass and its a pain to see it in the wrong desqueeze. Thank you!
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostTue Oct 08, 2024 12:54 am

I don’t claim to know but I’d suspect that the devs were maxed out working on Pyxis firmware and that, now that it’s shipped, they hopefully will have time to integrate all that work into the 6K FF firmware.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostTue Oct 08, 2024 7:16 am

Joe Shapiro wrote:I don’t claim to know but I’d suspect that the devs were maxed out working on Pyxis firmware and that, now that it’s shipped, they hopefully will have time to integrate all that work into the 6K FF firmware.


Former URSA G2 Owner here, that never got the GEN5, so I'm not sure about anything.

I don't know what the plans are, but it would be nice to know.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Oct 09, 2024 12:52 pm

Nathan_H wrote:
Joe Shapiro wrote:I don’t claim to know but I’d suspect that the devs were maxed out working on Pyxis firmware and that, now that it’s shipped, they hopefully will have time to integrate all that work into the 6K FF firmware.


Former URSA G2 Owner here, that never got the GEN5, so I'm not sure about anything.

I don't know what the plans are, but it would be nice to know.


Besides the 6kFF I have several other Blackmagic Cameras (like the Ursa12k OLPF). Shouldnt be to hard to pack in a de-squeeze algorithm or am I wrong? The Ursa 12k OLPF has also very suitable anamorphic resolutions. I hope that blackmagic is not just about marketing their new 12K Cine Camera and provide this important feature both to the 6kFF and the Ursa 12k.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Oct 16, 2024 8:31 pm

+1 to that!
Please allow all Desqueeze in all resolution
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostMon Oct 21, 2024 6:32 pm

Joe Shapiro wrote:I don’t claim to know but I’d suspect that the devs were maxed out working on Pyxis firmware and that, now that it’s shipped, they hopefully will have time to integrate all that work into the 6K FF firmware.


I sure hope so, it's really annoying that the Pyxis comes out with better desqueeze options than the BMCC6K. At the very least it would be nice if BM would come out and say, "We're working on it." Or "Hey suckers, you're SOL!"
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Oct 23, 2024 3:59 pm

I reached out to customer support. This is what I got:

Hi Andreas,

Thank you for contacting Blackmagic Support.

Thank you very much for your comment, as it's always great to hear from industry professionals like yourself.

We appreciate the feature recommendation for additional de-squeeze options and this has already been passed on to our product management team.

You can keep an eye on all future updates to our cameras on our support page linked below:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/sup ... al-cameras

1.8 x anamorphic de-squeeze is available on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K, when using the resolution 'Super 35 4:3', although I appreciate that this may not be your desired workflow.

There is more information about the de-squeeze options on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera in the manual linked below, at pages 619 and 620 in German or 61 and 62 in English.

https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/ ... 4761213000

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to get in touch.

Kind Regards,

Katie H-M
Camera Support Specialist

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Let's hope it will soon be implemented, because the super35 mode isn't useful for most of my work. Anamorphics are just not sharp enough, when you start cropping into the sensor.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Oct 23, 2024 4:09 pm

Maybe it helps, if more of you guys write to support directly. I guess that makes it more urgent than writing it in some hidden forum topic.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Oct 23, 2024 11:28 pm

HI,

It's something we are looking into, but no promises as to whether achievable.
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Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutions

PostThu Oct 24, 2024 6:40 am

Thanks for that info Kristian!
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostThu Oct 24, 2024 4:32 pm

Kristian Lam wrote:HI,

It's something we are looking into, but no promises as to whether achievable.


Thanks Kristian!
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostFri Oct 25, 2024 10:47 am

Thanks for replying Kristian. Thank you for working on it!
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostTue Nov 12, 2024 5:41 pm

Can anyone explain why this wouldn’t be achievable? Are they not the same sensors?
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Nov 13, 2024 2:03 pm

Dean Fisher wrote:Can anyone explain why this wouldn’t be achievable? Are they not the same sensors?


Maybe she just means financially achievable in terms of team resource allocation.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Nov 13, 2024 4:00 pm

Tried to help.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Nov 13, 2024 5:12 pm

BMCC6K has more processing power than any of the other Pocket cameras we were told by Grant when he introduced the camera to us last year. It would be an oversight in design flaws if having a Open Gate 3:2 option only to fail to take advantage of it with limited Anamorphic de-squeeze option.
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PostWed Nov 13, 2024 5:33 pm

You’re totally right.
I don’t know anything.

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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostThu Dec 19, 2024 4:54 pm

Kristian Lam wrote:HI,

It's something we are looking into, but no promises as to whether achievable.



Hey Kristian,

Still no update on this ?

Still a big pain to be honest....
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostTue Feb 04, 2025 8:44 am

Kristian Lam wrote:HI,

It's something we are looking into, but no promises as to whether achievable.



Hello Kristian,
Will this happens ? Still on a production with Pyxis and 6k FF in 1.5x anamorphic.
6k ff on gimbal etc

It’s very cumbersome to not have the proper de squeeze options for all format.
I have received complains from post house about proxy not being de squeezed on 6k ff.

Can we have an affirmation if this feature will be avaible or not ?


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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostSun Feb 09, 2025 5:22 am

Do we have any update on this issue? The best part of the Pocket form factor is that you can go light without needed an additional monitor for manual focus. I don't want to have to drag an additional monitor with me on shoots if possible when using my 2.0 lenses, but wanting the full quality of open gate. The Lumix S5mkiix was released before this camera and lets the user choose the squeeze with their open gate.
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PostSun Feb 09, 2025 5:29 am

The last camera update I could install was 8.7 Public Beta. Is that as far as the BM os goes for the Cinema Camera Full Frame?

I don't see a full non beta version listed either.

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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostMon Feb 17, 2025 9:32 pm

I was at the Blackmagic Booth during the BSC 2025 expo last weekend, they really only had the Pyxis and new 12K cameras on display.

I hope they haven't forgotten about the Pockets & Cinema 6K. Honestly why are they putting so much effort into things like the Iphone and Andriod apps? How about prioritize people that actually buy your hardware and support the company? The last beta update broke the card reader on my 6K FF, support were zero help! Its been months now. I'm starting to regret purchasing the 6K FF, due to the lack of any positive information from BM.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostWed Feb 19, 2025 4:18 am

As a previous URSA G2 owner that never got the gen5 color science or camera updates (ui) compared to the pockets… it’s starts to add up…
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostThu Feb 20, 2025 2:04 pm

Kristian Lam wrote:HI,

It's something we are looking into, but no promises as to whether achievable.


Pixys have this options and is basically the same camera as 6kFF BUT "no promises as to whether achievable"??? Really??? The camera was released a little more than 1 year ago and it seems that you have totally forgotten about it when it is practically NEW.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostMon Feb 24, 2025 2:50 pm

carloslagekhrm wrote:
Kristian Lam wrote:HI,

It's something we are looking into, but no promises as to whether achievable.


Pixys have this options and is basically the same camera as 6kFF BUT "no promises as to whether achievable"??? Really??? The camera was released a little more than 1 year ago and it seems that you have totally forgotten about it when it is practically NEW.


I know right, starting to become a bad joke now.
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostMon Feb 24, 2025 6:02 pm

Not only that but there is flaws controlling the aperture when using Canon EF Macro lenses with an adapter that never got addressed. Never mind new features these are flaws that need fixing!!!!
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostTue Mar 11, 2025 6:48 pm

Any news ?
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Re: Blackmagic 6K FF : Anamorphic Desqueeze in All Resolutio

PostTue Mar 11, 2025 7:25 pm

Would like an update on this too? Really frustrating.
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PostTue Mar 11, 2025 9:08 pm

yes please
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PostWed May 21, 2025 5:51 am

so still no updates on this?

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