BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

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BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostWed Sep 08, 2021 2:47 pm

1. Weebill-S
I tried the Weebill-S with BMPCC 4k and firmware 7.3. But it doesn't work.
Zhiyan said there guarantee is only with camere firmware 6.6.
After asking for the possibilities they wanted to talk with BM.
The recent reply was now:
"The question comes from when the camera itself control protocol will open to Zhiyun gimbal. That is not we can control. Hope you can understand."
What does that mean?
Something which is on the side of BM?
Any solution?

2. Moza (Aircross 2)
I asked Moza about the camera firmware 7.3.
They replied:
"Sincerely sorry, we have not done the test of your BMPCC4K to the new one V7.3+ with moza aircross 2, so we can not guarantee the performance and compatibility. We also don't get the customer feedback they can't use the BMPCC4K with moza aircross 2 now.
I will forward your case to our engineers to test this new firmware version camera in the future, but we after sales staff have no idea about exact schedule. Thanks for your patience and understanding."

Has anybody an actual experience with V 7.3+ and air cross 2 OR any other Gimbal for focus use (but focus control on air cross 2 can be controlled by following focus anyhow) and record start/stop at least? More adjustments like shutter, iris would be great.
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostSun Sep 12, 2021 8:34 am

I have a Weebill-S and a BMPCC 4K. That's right - with firmware 7.3 the gimbal does not control the camera. The Weebill S will control the camera with firmware 6.9.6, so you have the option of using that - but then you lose Gen 5 and BRAW Q1 and Q3. You just have to decide what's more important to you...

You can, of course, still use the gimbal perfectly well with the camera with firmware 7.3.x; you just have to do all the button-pushing on the camera itself.

Hoping that Blackmagic and Zhiyun will talk to each other sometime soon...

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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostMon Sep 13, 2021 7:05 am

The Ronin S does seem to work now with 7.3, although it's still not listed as being supported by DJI in the compatibility table..
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostMon Sep 13, 2021 10:42 am

Thanks for your answers.

Ronin S is not produced any longer ... wether the newer versions are suitable for 7.3 ... I don't know.

Regarding focus control, a follow focus system (or focus/zoom function) which can be used with the gimbal-built-in knob - available for most gimbals - is the only way to use focus control with bmpcc 4k.
And this is anyhow independent of camera fimware.

I hope, Zhiyan, Moza etc. will offer a new firmware soon - for the use of the other functions - with bmpcc 4k and V 7.3+. For the time being I have to use the additional adjustments on the camera itself.
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostMon Sep 13, 2021 12:16 pm

DJI RS-2 and RSC-2 working well mit BMPCC pocket 4k/6k/6k pro

https://www.dji.com/support/compatibility
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostMon Sep 13, 2021 1:03 pm

Thanks Mark,
but DJI's compability list says clearly: camera firmware 6.6 !!! (look at the small note at the bottom)

(Do you have all these cameras (4k/6k/6k pro) and did you tested them all with the new firmware V 7... ?)
Sorry, I see now, you said you have it ...
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostMon Sep 13, 2021 4:44 pm

yes, DJI has unfortunately not updated this

i have a 4k with 7.3 and a 6k pro with 7.3.1,
and both work on my RS-2 with current firmware.
cMP 5.1 2x3,46/96GB/2x2TB 860pro/4x4TB HGST/SSD7101A 4x2TB 970evoplus/HP1344/BMD4k/Radeon VII
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostTue Sep 21, 2021 11:12 am

Update:
I got the DJI RSC-2, and it does work with BMPCC 4k and camera firmware 7.3:
Focus wheel (Sigma 16mm 1.4), autofocus button, ISO adjustment etc. are all ok.
An update to the newest gimbal firmware was necessary, an installed older firmware version did not operate with BMPCC 4k.
Beside: If the camera itself (without any cage etc.) is mounted onto this gimbal, no counter weights are necessary.
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostFri Sep 24, 2021 7:11 am

The Weebill S by Zhiyun does not work on the BMPCC 4k. The usb connection no longer functions.
I contacted Blackmagic and was told they were working on it. After no updates for a month I contacted them again and was told it was up tp Zhiyun to fix it.

Communication with Zhiyun is mostly unproductive. I got the same message as HR Lehner which after a few questions meant they need information from Blackmagic about usb access. I asked if they have contacted Blackmagic and was told they have sent my query to the Technical Department.
Essentially it is not working and it may never unless the BMPCC 4k 6.9 firmware is used.

If the Video transmitter for the Weebill S is used the camera can be controlled by the gimbal and ZY Play from a phone or iPad. Zy Play could be better especially for focusing on an iPad.

If Zhiyun talk to Blackmagic and fix the usb issue and fix the rough edges in ZY Play the Weebill S would be excellent.
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Re: BMPCC 4k (Firmware 7.3) & Gimbals

PostSun Sep 26, 2021 7:12 am

The BMD FW 7.3 has few problems with USB control, but for most parts it works just fine. As I see it it really is for the gimbal manufacturers to fix it on their side as we have done.

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