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First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 7:07 pm

Hi

Never used a BM camera before just ordered the BM 6k pocket pro. My current camera is GH5s.

I'm sure I'll have so many questions, just watching YT tutorials at the moment.

1)
My current SD card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 64gb V30 150Mbs. I'm sure it won't work with the higher res formats but are there any formats ie lower res that it will work with. I do intend to upgrade my SD card as soon as poss just not yet if I can avoid it.

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Never shot in raw or colour graded raw footage, I do have Davinci Resolve for my GH5s footage. So any suggestions on formats that would be easier to colour grade while I'm finding my way round BM.

My initial thoughts are to go with the Pro Res HD formats at first.

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 7:24 pm

That SD card will record the higher compression UHD braw options (12:1 and Q5) on the BMPCC 4K (as well as Prores HD), but is likely to fail at any 6K compression ratio. You'd likely need to shoot UHD braw (cropped sensor) or Prores HD.

Use Resolve Color Management, for dealing with the braw footage. The manual explains it. Or YT if you must. Apart from raw-level controls, color correcting raw is no different than grading log material.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 7:34 pm

Thanks John

Never shot log either :-(

I'll go with Pro res for now till I can get my head around everything - bit of a learning curve.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 7:45 pm

I'd recommend skipping ProRes and just record in Q5 BRAW. Even at 6K the data rate of BRAW Q5 is going to be lower than UHD ProRes.
Also, I highly recommend reading the manual in detail first. It is well written and answers most questions that new users of camera will have:
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 8:21 pm

Thanks Jamie

Ah right I thought raw would use up higher data rates than ProRes my mistake just a noob misunderstanding. Got a shoot this weekend so want to get going fast without worrying too much about post grading. Thanks for the manual link -bookmarked.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 8:37 pm

That card can't reliably record Prores HQ UHD either, so I doubt it will manage any flavor of 6K braw. Of course, you can always try and see what happens.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 8:39 pm

Even more confused - I'm using Davinci on a windows machine. Apparently I can import ProRes but not export it so either no point in using ProRes or is it possible to export Pro Res from Davinci in another format.

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 8:52 pm

I second Jaime's advice about reading the manual. It's not that long and will be a great help in starting off with the camera.

As a second step - TEST YOUR MEDIA!!! Test it at every frame rate, resolution and codec combination that's possible, so you can find the limits and know what you can safely do on a real shoot. Be sure the camera is set to stop recording when frames are dropped, otherwise this test will be useless. (And leave that setting on when you're done testing.)
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 9:14 pm

I can highly recommend to dive into BRAW. You will find that it is very easy to work with and grade.

BTW, you can install the free Voukoder plugin to export ProRes on a Windows PC.
www.voukoder.org

What I always do when I get a new camera: Read the user manual once. Go through all the menu settings, play around with the camera, do lots of test shootings for a few weeks. Work with the test footage in Resolve. Then read the manual again. With a bit of experience now it will be much easier to understand.

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 06, 2022 9:39 pm

Answers to OP questions:

1. For the Sandisk V30, you can comfortably record in UHD 4K @ 24fps in BRAW 12:1 or in log with Prores 422. This will ensure that you don’t get drop frames. Any resolution below that will be fine too.

2. Completely agree with the others to give BRAW a try. Most of my clients prefer to get Prores so I also suggest that you learn them both.

For workflow, my preference is to use ACES cct. There’s many tutorials on YouTube on what is the Academy Color Encoding System (ACES) that many Post house uses and how to use it in Resolve.

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 6:17 pm

Thank you for all the advice - think I'm getting ahead of myself.

So camera arrived today yay.

First shoot today

Raw constant quality 2.8k project 23.98fps off speed 100fps
Stop if card drops frames = on
ISO 400 1.8 aperture.

Card: Sandisk 150mbs Extreme Pro 10 U3.

Camera records for about 10 seconds or so then stops. I think this is card write speed, it's worse on my 90mbs card stops around 3 seconds. If I switch off Stop if card drops recording continues.

I went with 100fps to compensate for my otherwise shaky hand held footage till I can get it on my Weebil S gimbal.

Edited in DV settings screen print uploaded.

So take away is I need a better card.

Camera is very big.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 6:46 pm

What BRAW ratio did you used?
At that 2.8K resolution, You should have been able to record at 12:1 or even 8:1 at 23.9fps without dropping frames. Definitely will drop frame at 100fps and/or in 3:1 even 5:1, and Q0.

The 6K pro will not work well on the Weebil S as it is heavy for it and the camera is big for it.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 6:56 pm

Thanks just realised I was shooting at 5:1 changed to 8:1 recording still shutting off but a little longer.

I'll give 12:1 a go but won't the quality be terrible?

I mostly shoot stock video some of the agencies can be very picky.

So I need to research a better card that doesn't cost $$$$$$$$$$$s

Thanks again appreciate the help.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 7:27 pm

OK another dumb question sorry

Shooting in 2.8k so resolution is 2864 X 1512

Project settings no such Timeline resolution so created Custom resolution of 2864 X 1512.

When I export I can't downscale to 1080x1920 without getting the black bars at the top and bottom.

So is my only option to export with resolution 2864 X 1512 or is there a way of downscaling to 1920x1080.

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 7:37 pm

OK so if go to Edit | Transform | Zoom 1.080 looks be ok
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 7:54 pm

angela wrote:Thanks just realised I was shooting at 5:1 changed to 8:1 recording still shutting off but a little longer.

I'll give 12:1 a go but won't the quality be terrible?

I mostly shoot stock video some of the agencies can be very picky.

So I need to research a better card that doesn't cost $$$$$$$$$$$s

Thanks again appreciate the help.

Yes, you need a better card. If you're shooting anything where media failure is not an option, I highly recommend using only CFast 2.0 media from BMD's officially tested list: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59026
Not all cards support all frame rates and compression options. If 100 fps is going to be what you're shooting, you'll want to get the cards from the first section of the list that support the highest data rates. Also, pay attention to the card sizes in the list as well since even the same model card will not perform the same at all sizes because some card manufacturers use different components in different size cards.

Also, when recording BRAW, I highly recommend using to the constant quality Q5 setting because the camera will adapt to the data rate to the scene as needed within set limits [this is covered in the camera manual ;) ]. You'll get better results than the constant rate options.

As for the output, you'd need to change the output scaling options in the settings for your custom size timeline. That will control how the output is scaled. However, if your output is 1920x1080 anyway, the simplest thing is just to work on a 1920x1080 timeline and set the input scaling option to "scale full frame with crop".
This video covers the input and output scaling options at the project level:

I also recommend reading through the section on scaling options in the Davinci Resolve manual: https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/DaVinci_Resolve_18_Reference_Manual.pdf?_v=1668153611000
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 8:07 pm

Thank you Jamie

Owe you a donut if I ever meet in person.

Right I'll work through your suggestions in your post should get chance tomorrow.

Making a little progress at least.

Goodnight for now thanks again.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 07, 2022 9:57 pm

BTW — Until you do get a card from the officially tested list, if you do want to use the full sensor to record 1920x1080 ProRes directly, you can set the camera to downscale to that size internally from the full sensor rather than cropping into the sensor (this is covered in the manual). Since the 6K Pro is a Bayer pattern sensor, the in camera downscaling is only possible when recording to ProRes (the Ursa Mini Pro 12K has a different sensor pattern which does allow for in camera scaling in BRAW).
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostThu Dec 08, 2022 12:44 am

I recommend getting the Angelbird C-Fast 2.0 cards like this 256gb.
https://www.markertek.com/product/angel ... 7UBlfPOFVU
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PostThu Dec 08, 2022 1:28 am

As you are not wanting to spend $$$$$$$$$ for a card, CFast may not be the way to go unless you're good with only 128 or 256 GB. I use a Samsung T5 with my 6k and don't have any problems unless I'm shooting Q3 braw at 6k 50 on a hot day. Apparently the T7 works now and that writes twice as fast as the T5.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostThu Dec 08, 2022 1:58 am

GalinMcMahon wrote:As you are not wanting to spend $$$$$$$$$ for a card, CFast may not be the way to go unless you're good with only 128 or 256 GB. I use a Samsung T5 with my 6k and don't have any problems unless I'm shooting Q3 braw at 6k 50 on a hot day. Apparently the T7 works now and that writes twice as fast as the T5.

Do note that CFast media are more reliable than external SSD like the T5 or T7. I have had a few T5 issues with my P6K and URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 but never with the Angelbird CFast 2.0 cards. Basically, if you are filming for recreation, the T5's are pretty good but if your livelihood depends on the project, for sanity sake, I would go with a C-Fast. That's not to say media do not fail... they all do.
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PostThu Dec 08, 2022 2:18 am

Finally, even 12:1 compression doesn't look that bad, depending on image content.
Good enough to familiarise yourself with the camera, but later on I'd get something better than SD.
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PostThu Dec 15, 2022 5:07 am

Sabrent V60 512GB SD card can do 6K 23.98fps BRAW 8:1 no problem and that will allow you to record up to 1hr 28mins for $130. It can also do 6K 50fps BRAW 12:1. Best bang for the buck if you ask me.

CFAST are super expensive but the Silicon Power 256GB is relatively affordable at $169 and can do 6K 3:1 at 23.98fps, but will only record 16min 25sec. 5:1 will record 27mins. 8:1 will record 44mins. But then you might as well buy a Sabrent SD card for less money...

I have both cards, because I mainly shoot in 6K 12:1 on the Sabrent. But the CFAST is nice to have as a backup and not have to rely on tethering an SSD to the camera. But also if I only need a few high quality short green screen or product shots, I can get it on the CFAST no problem. Angelbird are incredible, but have an incredible price to match... for me, I like bang for the buck and an SSD is much much cheaper if you need long record times. But for short non tethered shooting, cards in camera is just more reliable.
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PostThu Dec 15, 2022 7:21 am

David Chai wrote:Angelbird are incredible, but have an incredible price to match... for me, I like bang for the buck and an SSD is much much cheaper if you need long record times. But for short non tethered shooting, cards in camera is just more reliable.


When I bought my two 1 TB CFast cards from Angelbird in 2018 they were 1.500 Euros each.
Today you can get those cards for 589 Euros.
https://www.videodata.de/angelbird-cfas ... -1-tb.html

So while I agree that this is still much more expensive than a SSD, it gives me some piece of mind when doing client work. The reliability and write stability of CFast cards comes for a price because they do not use the cheaper 3D multi-layered cells of the cheaper consumer SSDs. So while consumer flash cells get more and more layers and production capacities, the industrial grad cells get less quantities and higher prices.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostThu Dec 15, 2022 7:28 am

When I shoot with SSDs, my basic setup is shown below. On the P6K, shown is the T5. On the URSA, I use the Lynx That uses 2.5” SSDs. The cables I think are the best money can buy - Kondor Blue.
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PostSat Dec 17, 2022 6:08 am

When I bought my two 1 TB CFast cards from Angelbird in 2018 they were 1.500 Euros each.
Today you can get those cards for 589 Euros.


$1500 euro! OUCH! Price now is a bargain in comparison! But hope you were able to pay them off and make some money from them! At least they won't be letting you down when the client is watching.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostSat Dec 17, 2022 4:36 pm

Hi

Got a cfast card and reader but one question is footage BRAW is very noisy in any ISO other than 100. I understood BMC6k pro was supposed to be good in low light but I'm not seeing it.

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PostSat Dec 17, 2022 7:19 pm

normally always shoot in native 400 low ISO / 3200 high ISO
but in low light conditions you should use 1250 ISO for less noise

but also always use good lights for the best footage you can get.

in extreme situations expose one step or more higher and shoot in BRAW
to correct it afterwards with the highlight recovery in resolve.
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PostSat Dec 17, 2022 10:00 pm

I have 1 x BMPCC 4K and 2 x Studio 4K Pro cameras. We shoot events with shoot times measured in hours rather than minutes so cards of any flavour are not practical. I have had a T5 for years without any drama and now have 6 SSD's of varying flavours, 5 are on the recommended list and they all work as advertised. The 6th was an experiment which is now confined to the ATEM.
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PostSun Dec 18, 2022 7:20 am

angela wrote:Hi

Got a cfast card and reader but one question is footage BRAW is very noisy in any ISO other than 100. I understood BMC6k pro was supposed to be good in low light but I'm not seeing it.

Thanks again


You should provide some sample BRAW footage to show what you mean. And the settings, lens, aperture and light conditions. And how you assessed the footage for noise.
You can upload samples to Wetransfer (2GB max) or Filemail (5 GB max) and post the link here.
Otherwise it is impossible to discuss the issue because this is like saying my camera is supposed to take sharp pictures but I’m not seeing it…
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostMon Dec 19, 2022 7:43 am

Hi

Mark thanks yes getting familiar with the False Color tool to try and identify noise.

I'll get something uploaded and provide as much info as I can, sorry busy few days.

Thanks ever so much.
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PostMon Dec 19, 2022 1:24 pm

The problem with noise on the 6K is also because you were shooting in 2.6K. That only uses a small part of the sensor. IMO the P6K has worse lowlight performance with 4K sensor area than the P4K full sensor.

You'd better shoot 6K, that will improve noise a lot.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostMon Dec 19, 2022 5:28 pm

You should always light your set enough to not starve the sensor. Lighting techniques are very important with not only exposure but overall quality of the image which includes decreasing the noise level.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostMon Dec 19, 2022 8:17 pm

Thank you all for taking the time to respond - appreciated.

I got 65mb Sandisk Cfast 2.0 - managed to get a used one for £50 which gets me up and running in 4k. I just shoot very short clips but the Angelcards sound to have a good reputation - maybe next year - blown my budget.

Few tests in 4k braw and seem to be getting better results. Bringing exposure down in post seems to clean it up. Using False color in camera and post is really helpful.

Link to 4 test shots - braw, low light, different ISOs all shot at 1.7apeture 4k 4096x2160 50fps shutter 100.

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PostMon Dec 19, 2022 8:29 pm

I haven't looked at your clips, but one thing to note here: there's no difference between iso 100 and 1000 if you're shooting braw at the same f-stop in both instances. You'll get exactly the same exposure for both. The same is true of the difference between 1250 and 3200 (there is none, at the same f-top). All you're doing is brightening or darkening the screen, by changing the ISO value. The actual exposure (and the noise present) is determined by the f-stop and the shutter speed, and whether you're in the lower (100-1000) or higher (1250-6400) circuit.

Also note that you'll get a cleaner picture if you shoot 6K and downsample it to 4K on a Resolve timeline.
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PostMon Dec 19, 2022 9:41 pm

John Paines wrote: The actual exposure (and the noise present) is determined by the f-stop and the shutter speed, and whether you're in the lower (100-1000) or higher (1250-6400) circuit.


angela wrote:Link to 4 test shots - braw, low light, different ISOs all shot at 1.7apeture 4k 4096x2160 50fps shutter 100.


A quick way to see your exposure in Resolve is to switch the clip's gamma in the Raw tab to Blackmagic Video or Extended Video.

You used the same shutter and fps for both ISO 400 and ISO 3200 in the posted clips. I think the ISO 100 & 400 clips are more accurately exposed for the light bulb, mid tones and shadows than ISO 1250 -3200.
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PostTue Dec 20, 2022 5:29 am

First of all, you need to understand that no electronic camera can shoot black, it'll always be a dark, noisy grey. So, if you intend to get black areas in your scene, add light or expose them higher and pull them down in post (but not all the way to a flat line).

And then, even a camera with pretty decent dynamic range and log recording will not be able to cover a scene like this. You'll need to add some light to the shadow areas to reduce the contrast if you don't want the bulb being blown out (flat white line). Nevertheless, depending on your artistic intention, a direct light source in the scene (called a practical) may be blown out if you want. But the dark areas will need some light not to be noisy.

Finally, if you are used to amateur cameras until now, please remember that the BMPCC is not doing noise reduction internally. It leaves this task to you in post if needed. In comparison, the low-light wonders by Sony from the A7S line are applying noise reduction, which is also loosing detail.

Your camera looks fine to me.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Dec 20, 2022 8:30 pm

Thank you

Good tips and noted. Making a bit more sense to me, just found the whole ISO/noise confusing.

On holiday now for Christmas so should be able to get out and get some practice in different conditions.

Shooting 6k is a good idea - might have to upgrade my card though,

ULI " that the BMPCC is not doing noise reduction internally. It leaves this task to you in post if needed" that explains a lot :-)

"A quick way to see your exposure in Resolve is to switch the clip's gamma in the Raw tab to Blackmagic Video or Extended Video. " - will give that a go.

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 21, 2022 2:13 pm

Loaded your samples into Resolve. A few remarks:

When you are examining LOG footage - especially with color science gen 5 - be aware that the very flat image with its raised shadows will always give you the impression of a lot of noise.
As Uli said, use a normalizing LUT like the Blackmagic Gen 5 Film to Extended Video.

You also shot in 50p for 23.976p (= offspeed) and with a 1/100 shutter. In low light situations you should lower your shutter speed if possible like 1/48 or 1/50 or 1/60. If you don't mind the extended motion blur you can even go lower to 1/23.976 or 1/25 or 1/30.

And shooting into a light bulb at night is quite challenging for any sensor.

You also have to know that the camera has only two ISO gain stages. Within a gain stage you can go up or down your ISO without affecting your dynamic range because it is just metadata getting changed.
Only in gain stage 2 at ISO 6400 and above you will start to lose a bit dynamic range compared to from ISO 1250 to 6400.

I've made some color corrections with your samples:

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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 21, 2022 2:15 pm

And from the gain stage 2. Again you can just switch the ISOs in Resolve and you will see there's no difference between 1250 and 3200.

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Note: I placed a noise reduction onto the first node of each sample.
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PostWed Dec 21, 2022 3:58 pm

And doing noise reduction in post is one of the advantages of such a camera. NR is like salt when cooking: some may be needed, but if there's too much 'baked' in, you can't get rid of it if done at the source.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostWed Dec 21, 2022 8:41 pm

Thanks Robert those look much better. Shot a light bulb to challenge the camera a little - your corrections look really good. I've obviously a lot to learn but it's great to have some much control in post. Really enjoying this camera and DV. :D

Noise reduction is very handy, only just bought the Studio version and it's saved quite a few of my GH5 shots that would have been unusable.
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PostWed Dec 21, 2022 9:52 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:You should always light your set enough to not starve the sensor. Lighting techniques are very important with not only exposure but overall quality of the image which includes decreasing the noise level.


Good advice - if you have a set to work with! You don't always have that luxury if you work an event so having options to handle noise etc. helps you get the shot and get the work!
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Re ISO/noise in BRAW.

As ISO, exposure and white balance can all be changed in post, does it matter what ISO one shoots at (BMPCC 4k and Resolve Studio)? This might sound like a dumb question, sorry.
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Re: First Black Magic camera arrives tomorrow

PostTue Jan 03, 2023 5:46 pm

RobertF wrote:Re ISO/noise in BRAW.

As ISO, exposure and white balance can all be changed in post, does it matter what ISO one shoots at (BMPCC 4k and Resolve Studio)? This might sound like a dumb question, sorry.


That's not a dumb question.
The PCC4k and PCC6k are using two gain stages for ISO.
Stage 1: ISO 100 - 1000 => doesn't matter what you select in BRAW within this stage.
Stage 2: ISO 1250 - 6400 => doesn't matter what you select in BRAW within this stage.

An ISO stage does not set your exposure, just the display curve.

But remember:
Stage 1 has around one stop more dynamic range than stage 2.
And stage 2 has cleaner blacks than stage 1.
If you go beyond ISO 6400 you will lose some more dynamic range and those ISOs are not interchangeable in post.

Exposure has to be set correctly by using shutter speed, ND filtering and lens aperture.

Whitebalance can be changed in post anytime and is just metadata.
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PostTue Jan 03, 2023 7:51 pm

Thanks Rob, that was a great answer - clear and concise - I understand it much better now.
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PostTue Jan 03, 2023 11:59 pm

But watch out, it only works like that in BRAW (as Robert clearly wrote).
ProRes is baking in those curves and white balance.
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