The BMPCC was a design classic

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The BMPCC was a design classic

PostSun Feb 05, 2023 4:20 pm

A post on Redshark News.

"The original BMPCC was both amazing and frustrating at the same time."


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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 12:09 am

That screen was useless in daylight and the battery life was awful
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 12:09 am

Kind of agree with this comment there:

"The original has become a classic because of the look of the pictures it produces, but a Design Classic would surely blend form and function in a way that you could never say of either of these cameras, however good the results on screen. But then I've never liked the stills camera form-factor for shooting film/video."

The DSLR form factor, however compact was an accident from the Canon 5D MKII days, that should never have become a norm for motion pictures but then I largely missed it, jumping as I did from mid 2000's ENG to present day UBG2.
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 12:32 am

The form factor had its uses for flying under the radar in cases where looking like you were recording professional video would have attracted unwanted attention. These days it is easier when everyone has accepted that everyone else has their smart phone cameras rolling 24/7, but back at the time of the original BMPCC release, there were exactly zero other options that could deliver that level of quality in that form factor. And really, there's still nothing to this day at that small size that delivers that level of quality.
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 12:50 am

I still have three. The battery is easily solved with a small cage - mostly preserving the tiny form factor. There are plenty of issues but one thing I love that I think is underrated:

The settings are simple enough that you know what you're getting and never have to search for what you need. Of course I wish it had a few more but I still prefer it to my gh5 handing-wise.

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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 1:21 am

I still love mine. Got a battery that lasts over 2 hours on my belt, but got to be very careful with the cable.
What I like most about it is using the beautiful glass from my S-16 days, an Angie 20-80mm and a 10mm Cinegon among others. In daylight I use a loupe.
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 1:22 am

Joe Shapiro wrote:Most of you will probably say I'm nuts but there it is!


Not nuts, Joe - a true fan :)
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 1:51 am

Joe Shapiro wrote: The settings are simple enough that you know what you're getting and never have to search for what you need. Of course I wish it had a few more but I still prefer it to my gh5 handing-wise.

Most of you will probably say I'm nuts but there it is!
I think you're 100% sane. It is the menus on cameras like the GH5 that are insane.
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 2:09 am

Not even to mention early Sony Alphas…
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostMon Feb 06, 2023 2:22 am

I liked the OG Pocket a good deal for the image quality. Although, the rolling shutter was awful. Same with the OG Cinema Camera in that regard. But the two matched so well together. And, I loved the images produced by both cameras. It was truly cinematic.

Personally I've always dreamed about how nice it would have been had Blackmagic come out with the BMPCC S16 sensor in an URSA Mini Pro body as early as 2008. Why that year? Just to fight against the DSLR Revolution since that was begun in 2008 with the Canon 5D Mark II, and later in 2009 with the Canon 7D. So, that's why. But also, in 2008-2010 we were using Video Camcorders with 35mm Lens Adapters in order to get that cinematic look. So just imagine if Blackmagic had a S16 UMP at that time. It would have been a great opening salvo.

I digress. The DSLR Revolution is really what caused the BMCC and BMPCC to have their designs. I'm most happy with the URSA Mini Cameras and the body design. Now, they only need to be made a bit lighter and smaller.

I think my biggest complaint about the Pocket 6K and Pocket 6K Pro is that they inherit that DSLR body design. It really is a clunky design for video purposes.
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostFri Feb 24, 2023 4:13 pm

I'm noticing used prices of mint cameras are dramatically going up. I love mine but am I missing something. There are two on Ebay at the moment circa $10k??????? This one seems more sensible but it's still £1.5K.
Is the camera going to be a future collectible?

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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostFri Feb 24, 2023 5:02 pm

Cool... I still have one in its shrink-wrap! :)
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostSat Feb 25, 2023 7:54 pm

Joe Shapiro wrote:Cool... I still have one in its shrink-wrap! :)


There was that brief, weird period (2014 or 2015?) where they went on sale for $499. Always regret not buying at least one extra.

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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostSat Feb 25, 2023 8:31 pm

Steve Holmlund wrote:
Joe Shapiro wrote:Cool... I still have one in its shrink-wrap! :)


There was that brief, weird period (2014 or 2015?) where they went on sale for $499. Always regret not buying at least one extra.

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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostSat Feb 25, 2023 11:13 pm

bmpcc OG is VW Beetle, car equivalent.
Not the fastest, failry simple, but unique look and style that holds its own.
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Re: The BMPCC was a design classic

PostSat Feb 25, 2023 11:16 pm

ProRes and Cinema DNG and a large viewing screen in your pocket or the palm of your hand. Easy to understand why it could be a museum collectible. Hang on to the shrink-wrapped package.
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