rick.lang wrote:GonzagueGB wrote:… "The following procedure is to update the lens firmware via SIGMA fp series camera. For firmware updates of Leica and Panasonic L-Mount cameras, please follow the instruction manual for each camera."
Read this carefully. The last sentence deserves a little more transparency as this is what they are really saying do buyer beware:
For firmware updates of Leica and Panasonic
and Sigma[/] L-Mount cameras, please follow the instruction manual for each [i]Leica and Panasonic and Sigma camera."
There is no implied warranty these lenses will work on other L-mount cameras nor any assurance the lens firmware can be updated by any camera other than the camera marketed by the lens manufacturer. I think we learned this lesson many years ago on this forum, but we were optimistic that BMD joining the L-Mount consortium would make it easier.
I am not reading this and from what I understood from my talk to some people involved in these companies, it is supposed to be an alliance in the real sense of it where information are shared and that everything should be compatible and interchangeable. BUT, with time I am sure we will see (or already saw) some drift.
Anyway, what I am reading here is, Hey, we show you how to do it on a Sigma FP with many screenshots and steps, if you want to do it on a Pana or Leica, go and visit their website or read the manual for that procedure.
rick.lang wrote:Long term solution: standardize all cameras on L-mount and acquire a company that will make BMD branded lenses. To be competitive and not disadvantaged, you need to follow similar business practices that have worked for years with companies that compete in both the lens and camera markets. Do you seriously think that Panasonic and Sigma meet regularly to share all their secrets and code to help each other since their part of this L- mount alliance? Of course you don’t. Look at the warranty of the Sigma L-Mount lenses: guaranteed to work on an appropriate Sigma camera but may also work on other cameras.
Few thoughts.
. As I said it is a real alliance in the real term of the word, at least how it was created, but with Leica at the top and milking it the most egregious possible way you can imagine, I am not so sure now.
. They do meet often; I believe that at one point it was a monthly meeting and maybe still do that monthly meeting for certain things. And for a technical reason, as well, manufacturing is sometimes shared across the brands. Now I am sure that there are CORE members (L, P, S) and newcomers may not have the same privilege, but meetings exist as they share ressources at every level.
. BM Making lenses would be GREAT, as the real money maker is there, but it implies acquiring someone as you said, since making a lens, is an art and after seeing firsthand how they make them (Sigma literally test EVERY LENSES before they ship them), you need a lot of talented people across the board.
Anyway, like you I was expecting more from BM to join the L alliance, but I like the rest, I think that BM does not really care about the mount really and just go where they are welcome (MFT, L...), They should maybe take another approach and start offering camera with swappable mount like they did for the 12K but for the rest.