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PostWed Apr 02, 2025 2:38 pm

Darko Djerich wrote:ImageURSA MICRO 265 by Darko Djeric, on Flickr
Yeah, ChatGPT and AI imaging has trouble replicating cameras. It can do a camera drone, but actual cinema cameras get all kinds of funky.


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PostWed Apr 02, 2025 4:06 pm

I would be happy with a new form factor pocket camera with af and tracking. Braw only. (no I'm not on drugs maybe dreaming)

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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostWed Apr 02, 2025 5:22 pm

I don't think this is a prediction as much as a wish. But speaking for myself and I think many others, if Blackmagic can take their innovative team and think of a documentary-style camera instead of a cinema camera... that's the camera a lot of it's users have been wanting.
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PostWed Apr 02, 2025 5:32 pm

ricardo marty wrote:I would be happy with a new form factor pocket camera with af and tracking. Braw only. (no I'm not on drugs maybe dreaming)

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+1, this would be an excellent camera for people dedicated to the BMD ecosystem.
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PostWed Apr 02, 2025 6:57 pm

emilburg wrote:I don't think this is a prediction as much as a wish. But speaking for myself and I think many others, if Blackmagic can take their innovative team and think of a documentary-style camera instead of a cinema camera... that's the camera a lot of it's users have been wanting.


The Ursa Mini Pro G2 was probably the best at this.
15 stops of DR, Internal NDs, two codecs, decent XLR audio, rugged body...
I used it for several years to great success as a Doc camera.

That being said, if they did another run at this setup in either an updated body or Pyxis style, it would be amazing.
I think a lot of us just wanted a UMP12k G2 w/ updated media to CF Express, but the URSA Cine took the spotlight and need away with its impressive sensor and features. I know SOO many of use want an intermediate camera somewhere between the Pyxis and Ursa Cine, but I just can't see it happening with that taking sales from either product.
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PostWed Apr 02, 2025 7:16 pm

Still love my UMPG2. And, definitely still reach for it over the Pocket 6K Pro. Even if the other day I used the P6KPro as a B-Cam to the UC12K. So I agree with Adam that the UMPG2 is sort of the perfect documentary camera.

However, these days I know so many want an FX6 type of camera for documentary. Especially with the autofocus. So I hope that Blackmagic does marry the PYXIS and UMP designs into a really nice uniform body that has internal ND, Full Frame Sensor, Various Codec Options, High Frame Rates, and full size XLRs. If it has the L Mount with the internal ND and can achieve autofocus then it could really give the Sony FX6 a run for its money.

But that may be years away.

I love the URSA Cine 12K. Hands down the best sensor. And, so many of the features of the UC12K I love. I have come around on the side LCD and really love it now. Was so convenient on the shoot the other day. But I still wouldn't mind a smaller body without the side LCD that could pair nicely with the URSA Cine to be a B-Cam. So merging the URSA Mini and URSA Cine into an URSA Cine Mini would be amazing.

Only 2 Days till we find out what Blackmagic has been cooking in the kitchen for us.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostWed Apr 02, 2025 9:36 pm

I'd love to BMD finally get into NDI connectivity. A switcher that can take NDI camera feeds would be nice. Also i'm very curious to see what comes from Resolve and Fusion. Do we jump to Resolve 20 or just a half step to 19.5? I guess we will all know in 1 day, 17 hours and so so minutes :D
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 1:07 am

Not quite NAB worthy but close to it. I realized that in looking at the news that there is one country NOT on the list of tariffs recently announced here in the US. Australia. That means while every other camera manufacture out there will be getting up to 38% tariffs on them, Blackmagic will have none. No price increase at all.

If this holds it will make Blackmagic one of the lowest costing cameras, and other equipment, out there.
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 1:36 am

Gonna park this here.

Good Luck

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Howard Roll wrote:Gonna park this here.


Wow, nice find. Mr. Petty is on a roll.
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I don’t know, I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Adam Langdon wrote:I don’t know, I’ll believe it when I see it.


I took that picture….and some others that weren’t as newsworthy.

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BMD’s proprietary 12K sensor with 16 stops has probably saved my marriage since I can take the prudent course and have the same sensor (without the many fine features of the URSA Cine 12K LF which I may not need) at an affordable price in a Pyxis 12K.

Can I get in line for this? If that’s true that BMD will not be hit by today’s tariffs, then I hope to make this happen subject to the value of the Canadian dollar (or use my vendor that accepts my USD).

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Howard Roll wrote:
Adam Langdon wrote:I don’t know, I’ll believe it when I see it.


I took that picture….and some others that weren’t as newsworthy.

Good Luck


Oh wow! Let’s hope for a decent price!
I’m going to get one for sure.
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 3:40 am

Ok, a Pyxis with a 12K. Hello, that's going to become the B-Cam to my URSA Cine 12K.

I'm betting the frame rates will be very limited. Probably no more than 60 FPS. But I'll still take it.
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 3:42 am

And, I'm going to note that it will take me a while before I can buy it since I just spent all kinds of money on the URSA Cine. But worth it. In every way because it does do higher frame rates and has so much amazing tech in it.

I cannot wait for Friday now!
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 3:52 am

I’ve been posting for some time now about BMD putting their proprietary sensor in their lower tier cameras so I’m overjoyed to see this is happening.
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Looks like BMD has a countdown clock to an update on their website for Friday 8 am PDT. I have an appointment at 8:30 am but I’ll enjoy knowing when I’m home I can settle into the NAB update for a few hours.
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rick.lang wrote:BMD’s proprietary 12K sensor with 16 stops has probably saved my marriage since I can take the prudent course and have the same sensor (without the many fine features of the URSA Cine 12K LF which I may not need) at an affordable price in a Pyxis 12K.

Can I get in line for this? If that’s true that BMD will not be hit by today’s tariffs, then I hope to make this happen subject to the value of the Canadian dollar (or use my vendor that accepts my USD).

@Howard


The Orange One has hit Indonesia with 32% tarrifs :o
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jallen0 wrote:Not quite NAB worthy but close to it. I realized that in looking at the news that there is one country NOT on the list of tariffs recently announced here in the US. Australia. That means while every other camera manufacture out there will be getting up to 38% tariffs on them, Blackmagic will have none. No price increase at all.

If this holds it will make Blackmagic one of the lowest costing cameras, and other equipment, out there.

We’ll just watching the news tonight, it’s 10% across all others countries not in his revenge list, so that would include Australia. Even so it will be lower than others. I will wait out until this crazies gets back to their senses before I go purchase anything with my hard earned money. 10, 25, 50% tariff will bite consumers wallet big time.

On a different note, will the Pyxis 6K drop in price or will it be in the obsolescence list?
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 6:49 am

Glad I got the UCine12K before the Tariffs. I still have to get the EVF, but at least that won’t hurt nearly as bad.

https://vimeo.com/1072055369/e43ec0f7cb
There’s a video to excite you about the 12K sensor. It’s something very special.
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Howard Roll wrote:Gonna park this here.

Good Luck

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rick.lang wrote:Looks like BMD has a countdown clock to an update on their website for Friday 8 am PDT. I have an appointment at 8:30 am but I’ll enjoy knowing when I’m home I can settle into the NAB update for a few hours.


My flight to Las Vegas is right when the announcements will be happening. Hopefully I'll have wi-fi.
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VMFXBV wrote:Ursa Cine Mini LF, box shaped, 60fps capped.


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Any pics of the Resolve banners in Vegas telling us what the next number will be?
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timbutt2 wrote:Any pics of the Resolve banners in Vegas telling us what the next number will be?


Hopefully 20!
And Tim, did you see the Vespid 2's?? Cooke/i technology!
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Adam Langdon wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:Any pics of the Resolve banners in Vegas telling us what the next number will be?


Hopefully 20!
And Tim, did you see the Vespid 2's?? Cooke/i technology!
I did!!! Makes me so happy! They listened to my feedback.
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timbutt2 wrote:Any pics of the Resolve banners in Vegas telling us what the next number will be?


Hopefully 20!
And Tim, did you see the Vespid 2's?? Cooke/i technology!
I did!!! Makes me so happy! They listened to my feedback.



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this, paired with the tech in the Ursa Cine 12k will be fantastic.
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Adam Langdon wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:
Adam Langdon wrote:Hopefully 20!
And Tim, did you see the Vespid 2's?? Cooke/i technology!
I did!!! Makes me so happy! They listened to my feedback.



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this, paired with the tech in the Ursa Cine 12k will be fantastic.

I know! I'm hitting up my contacts at DZOFilm to see if I can test them out on the UC12K to see how beautifully they pair.
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While you’re talking to them, if they seem open about the primes, try to see if they will loan you that Tango 18-90mm that has my name on it!
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These guys:
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Alan Rand wrote:These guys:


Gah, of course we (speaking as an American) get incredible camera tech releases while our economy sinks to the bottom of the ocean, haha. Let's hope for some stability and that jobs will keep coming!
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Sadly that’s not going to happen overnight. Another reason the Pyxis 12K will sell a boatload is that even with a tariff the bump in price likely will seem acceptable compared to the bump in price of the Cine family. It could prove to be brilliant timing for BMD to continue to do well in the changing marketplace. I think a lot hinges on the finding of the Country of Origin. Will it be considered Australia or Singapore?
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Howard Roll wrote:Gonna park this here.

Good Luck

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Wow thanks for sharing Howard! Were you able to take a peak around those columns and see if the Pyxis body featured any ND buttons or dials? A PL only version might be feasible for NDs after all..

Have a great time in Vegas!
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rick.lang wrote:Sadly that’s not going to happen overnight. Another reason the Pyxis 12K will sell a boatload is that even with a tariff the bump in price likely will seem acceptable compared to the bump in price of the Cine family. It could prove to be brilliant timing for BMD to continue to do well in the changing marketplace. I think a lot hinges on the finding of the Country of Origin. Will it be considered Australia or Singapore?

Yeah, this is why I jumped on buying the UCine12K when I did. I had fear of price increases due to the Tariffs. F*** the orange menace. I have a Facebook post from 2011 that basically stated how I felt about him running for President. Sadly, the safety was short lived.
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Higher res of the left half confirming 12k at 60fps.

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Spoiler alert.

Good Luck

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It's painful just looking at it
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Howard Roll wrote:Spoiler alert.

Good Luck

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Do you know what? I think this is confirmation that autofocus is in the cards.
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Seems like NO internal ND's
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timbutt2 wrote:
Howard Roll wrote:Spoiler alert.

Good Luck

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Do you know what? I think this is confirmation that autofocus is in the cards.


That's a Canon lens on a locking EF Mount. The gear system isn't something I'm used to seeing on such a small lens. If they ARE implementing Auto Focus, I assume it will only be for certain models?

What this is, is the new Ursa Mini Pro line being replaced by the Pyxis.
The Ursa Mini 4k > Ursa Mini 4.6k > Ursa Mini Pro G1 > Ursa Mini Pro G2 > Ursa Mini Pro 12k
The broadcast cameras will start to shift to the Pyxis body as well. SO, I think we can definitely see either the Ursa Mini Broadcast G2 sensor (6k Pro) in the Pyxis Broadcast.

But what if they are pushing forward with this new sensor tech and just put that sensor in EVERYTHING?!?!??
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 11:53 pm

Seems strange to go through the work to make the broadcast oriented Pro one with the VF handle and everything and not add an articulated screen. But I guess they're wanting to not change the body.
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PostThu Apr 03, 2025 11:58 pm

joeyciccoline wrote:Seems strange to go through the work to make the broadcast oriented Pro one with the VF handle and everything and not add an articulated screen. But I guess they're wanting to not change the body.


Agree. Very annoying design decision that hopefully will be fixed at some point. But I'm willing to overlook it for this sensor/size combo.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 12:43 am

Adam Langdon wrote:That's a Canon lens on a locking EF Mount. The gear system isn't something I'm used to seeing on such a small lens. If they ARE implementing Auto Focus, I assume it will only be for certain models?


Are we looking at the Pyxis Pro's handle or the Pyxis (beat) Pro Handle

The lens is a Canon 18-135mm APSC kit zoom on a PZ-E1 servo base. There are some excellent EF mount servo zoom lenses from Canon and even some modest ones, this is neither. The lens covers S35, likely necessary to crop for broadcast friendly frame rates of 50 and 60fps.

I'm curious what else makes this "broadcast". Is it camera control, 2110, WL live-streaming, tally, the karate chop zoom rocker?

Good Luck
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 1:44 am

Adam Langdon wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:
Howard Roll wrote:Spoiler alert.

Good Luck

IMG_8505.jpeg

Do you know what? I think this is confirmation that autofocus is in the cards.


That's a Canon lens on a locking EF Mount. The gear system isn't something I'm used to seeing on such a small lens. If they ARE implementing Auto Focus, I assume it will only be for certain models?

What this is, is the new Ursa Mini Pro line being replaced by the Pyxis.
The Ursa Mini 4k > Ursa Mini 4.6k > Ursa Mini Pro G1 > Ursa Mini Pro G2 > Ursa Mini Pro 12k
The broadcast cameras will start to shift to the Pyxis body as well. SO, I think we can definitely see either the Ursa Mini Broadcast G2 sensor (6k Pro) in the Pyxis Broadcast.

But what if they are pushing forward with this new sensor tech and just put that sensor in EVERYTHING?!?!??


Grant is Petty enough to do it....
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 1:56 am

Seriously, where are the pictures of the DaVinci Resolve banners?
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:19 am

joeyciccoline wrote:Higher res of the left half confirming 12k at 60fps.

https://freeimage.host/i/img-4481.35WIo2s
A trash can and a truck are blocking the maximum frame rate for 8K and 4K!
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:32 am

Howard Roll wrote:Are we looking at the Pyxis Pro's handle or the Pyxis (beat) Pro Handle…


Are there two cameras to be revealed Friday morning: a Pyxis 12K designed for cinema and a Pyxis Pro designed for broadcast? That’s my take.
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