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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:33 am

Looks like there will be two different cameras a Pyxis 12k with a Cine 12k LF sensor and a Pyxis Pro sensor unknown with auto focus tracking.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 6:41 am

WahWay wrote:Looks like there will be two different cameras a Pyxis 12k with a Cine 12k LF sensor and a Pyxis Pro sensor unknown with auto focus tracking.


Could also be just a "PYXIS PRO handle"
A handle with an EVF and a side plate "broadcast" plate for the existing PYXIS bodies.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 2:51 pm

We will know in 8 minutes.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:00 pm

Here we go......!
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:02 pm

Is this for Resolve 20?
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I like those hard disk cases.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:05 pm

The way BMD just keeps releasing new fancy cameras, I wouldn't be surprised if Red Komodo dropped price for another $2000 next week :D
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:07 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:Here we go......!
has it started? dont see it
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:07 pm

Darko Djerich wrote:The way BMD just keeps releasing new fancy cameras, I wouldn't be surprised if Red Komodo dropped price for another $2000 next week :D


I wouldn't go that far. Unless BM releases a global shutter camera, Komodo still has its place IMHO.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:12 pm

ricardo marty wrote:
ShaheedMalik wrote:Here we go......!
has it started? dont see it

https://www.youtube.com/live/wLw1UU3fxU ... cq2WUtk2Rk
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:38 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:We will know in 8 minutes.

nah... cameras are for the end of video, we should waiting more :shock:
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 3:39 pm

Grant is earning his pay on this one.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:13 pm

It’s really excruciatingly boring to suffer through Grant tell us about all these switchers before we get to the cameras. I couldn’t take it anymore. I had to switch it off. I’ll come back later when he’s done.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:14 pm

Tilta just announced the Nucleus M II. Finally! Of course they did it during the BMD Live Stream. Haha. But at least it now has lens mapping! Yay!
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:14 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:Grant is earning his pay on this one.

Next year he need a moving desktop to put all new tools :-D,
Now it's a wall of great news, and he talked only about broadcast stuff
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:30 pm

Dude.
Cameras are always at the end but this is ridiculous. Over 1.5 hours? Why not record this and put it on the Blackmagic YouTube for people to go watch if they want. They KNOW everyone is waiting on the cameras. Actually insane. I wonder what percentage of the viewers are actually interested in this... <10% I'd guess.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:35 pm

Long and dry like an Arizona summer but mad props. Dude is doing every demo himself and walking us thru network configs in realtime. This is both the product launch and getting started video. Frankly I don’t know why Blackmagic uses models, it should just be Grant doing everything.

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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:38 pm

BM are big fans of edging.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:40 pm

Que Thompson wrote:Dude.
Cameras are always at the end but this is ridiculous. Over 1.5 hours? Why not record this and put it on the Blackmagic YouTube for people to go watch if they want. They KNOW everyone is waiting on the cameras. Actually insane. I wonder what percentage of the viewers are actually interested in this... <10% I'd guess.

You don't have to be the first to learn about everything, buddy. (Wannabe an "influencer" or something? Dime a dozen...) They're doing this exactly right: in order of importance. You can always play it back anytime and skip around.

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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:47 pm

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Que Thompson wrote:Dude.
Cameras are always at the end but this is ridiculous. Over 1.5 hours? Why not record this and put it on the Blackmagic YouTube for people to go watch if they want. They KNOW everyone is waiting on the cameras. Actually insane. I wonder what percentage of the viewers are actually interested in this... <10% I'd guess.

You don't have to be the first to learn about everything, buddy. (Wannabe an "influencer" or something? Dime a dozen...) They're doing this exactly right: in order of importance. You can always play it back anytime and skip around.

Big fan of Grant Petty here. Ultimate zen of corporate management and innovation.


Thanks for that. I've seen 2 posts from you and their both confrontational. I bet you have great relationships.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:54 pm

Resolve 20 looks great!
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 4:57 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:Resolve 20 looks great!

Amazing.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:12 pm

Um, did I hear that wrong or did he say that they’ll eventually start charging for Resolve updates?
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:12 pm

That last part wasn't that amazing.

I really hope they don't switch to paid upgrades just because of the Ai garbage.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:13 pm

Blackmagic is charging an upgrade fee for Resolve 20?
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:14 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:Blackmagic is charging an upgrade fee for Resolve 20?

We all knew it was going to happen, and the honeymoon couldn't last forever. Blackmagic's generosity was actually a loss-leader strategy to chip away at Adobe's arrogant and sluggish domination of the NLE space. I expect that in the final analysis, Resolve will still be FAR cheaper than Adobe's greedy play.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:14 pm

I think he was just saying that the free may not last forever, but it's still free for now.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:18 pm

They added auto focus with a software update?!?
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:19 pm

Called it! Autofocus by firmware update.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:19 pm

WHAT

*editing this so it doesn't come across as a low value post

That's genuinely incredible. Amazed it's coming to BMCC6K too.
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Thats a killer!
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:24 pm

Continuous AF tracking finally :o
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:26 pm

Micro Studio G2 Pxyis support!!!
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Software update in beta now for the BMCC6K
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:29 pm

Grant made the Pyxis into a Camcorder! Hahahah
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:31 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:Grant made the Pyxis into a Camcorder! Hahahah


That flippy screen is really missing in that form !
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:32 pm

I hope that zoom rocker can link up with a Tlita or DJI motor.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:33 pm

12k with lower framerates. 72 frames a sec.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:34 pm

Nathan_H wrote:
ShaheedMalik wrote:Grant made the Pyxis into a Camcorder! Hahahah


That flippy screen is really missing in that form !

Mount the Pyxis monitor on the side.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:39 pm

Anyone else at the end there see a slide that said pyxis 6k g2?
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:44 pm

They need to drop the price of the orignal Ursa Mini 12k.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:48 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:
Nathan_H wrote:
ShaheedMalik wrote:Grant made the Pyxis into a Camcorder! Hahahah


That flippy screen is really missing in that form !

Mount the Pyxis monitor on the side.


Only one USB-C so you'll have to swap usb c on the go. Not very broadcast friendly.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:50 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:They need to drop the price of the orignal Ursa Mini 12k.

Has higher frame rates.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:54 pm

Ryan Payne wrote:Anyone else at the end there see a slide that said pyxis 6k g2?


I saw that, took a screen grab.
Somewhat confused.

However Grant forgot to mention where one can get a new brain to wrap all this info around.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 5:55 pm

Auto-focus is a sleeper launch, because certain design staff/old-timey cinematographers (e.g., Brawley) have fought hard against investment in that.

I'm really excited and grateful that it's getting added to my BMCC6K, and evidently only the existing full-frame sensor cameras, but there's no reason it can't be added to the Pocket and URSA crop sensor line-ups. Priorities? Meantime, the PYXIS 12K's specs do not mention tracking/face detection auto-focus, so it may not be ready at launch for that camera.

The beta promised today for the BMCC6K isn't posted yet.

Lastly, this accuracy will be enough for most controlled situations, but lacking in deep integration with proprietary lens mounts, which simply isn't possible for Blackmagic. Sony, Canon, etc. will still win the field at auto-focus, of course. And we'll probably see that amateurish hunting in-and-out as the lenses struggle to keep up, too.
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Re: NAB 2025 Predicitions

PostFri Apr 04, 2025 6:00 pm

Mic drop moment from Blackmagic, honestly.

The Pyxis 12K is the camera I was hoping they'd make, I just didn't think it would be this soon. Some people might be cheesed off that cameras they bought <12 months ago have so suddenly been replaced by something better... but at the same time BM just gave them all continuous autofocus through a firmware update.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 6:01 pm

focuspulling wrote:there's no reason it can't be added to the Pocket and URSA crop sensor line-ups

In new cameras yes, but there's no indication that the old pockets like the 4K has the required NPU processor (the "neural network" Grant mentioned).
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 6:06 pm

I think AF tracking was meant to have happend last year NAB.
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PostFri Apr 04, 2025 6:09 pm

focuspulling wrote:Auto-focus is a sleeper launch, because certain design staff/old-timey cinematographers (e.g., Brawley) have fought hard against investment in that.

I'm really excited and grateful that it's getting added to my BMCC6K, and evidently only the existing full-frame sensor cameras, but there's no reason it can't be added to the Pocket and URSA crop sensor line-ups. Priorities? Meantime, the PYXIS 12K's specs do not mention tracking/face detection auto-focus, so it may not be ready at launch for that camera.

The beta promised today for the BMCC6K isn't posted yet.

Lastly, this accuracy will be enough for most controlled situations, but we have to assume it's mere contrast detection as always, compared to the current reference standard that combines with phase detection for better accuracy. The latter is made possible by deep integration with proprietary lens mounts, which simply isn't possible for Blackmagic. Sony, Canon, etc. will still win the field at auto-focus, of course. And we'll probably see that amateurish hunting in-and-out as the lenses struggle to keep up, too.


We don't know anything yes.
Sure investing in L-mount for getting AF is gonna restrain a lot of people (Sony shooter) but cound also welcome a lot of newcomers.

We will see how this AF response, but they just shot Red V-Raptor in the face. Red is still 16bits, but let see how they compare.

Hugely impressive in terms of termals.
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