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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 6:25 am

Craig Marshall wrote:I'll be very surprised if it lists at any figure below US$3999. Pleasantly surprised. Remember RED promised 4K for $4K several years ago and we saw where that ended...

Considering Blackmagic has the URSA 4K and URSA Mini 4K for $3K, I'd say Blackmagic won that battle.
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 6:42 am

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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 7:39 am

Seriously, is that a fixed lens barrel.l? Has anybody got a link to a better picture of that poster, or is nearby. Under that flap is something that looks like the lens, but I don't know of any external lens which is ribbed. It could be some strange feature, like a detachable micro sensor head with the lens mount of the front out of sight, or custom replaceable lens that nearly reaches the back.
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We've got as much info as you 8-)
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 8:30 am

The clip over the other thread shows a bit more interesting stuff in that area.
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 1:24 pm

Wayne Steven wrote:Seriously, is that a fixed lens barrel.l? Has anybody got a link to a better picture of that poster, or is nearby. Under that flap is something that looks like the lens, but I don't know of any external lens which is ribbed. It could be some strange feature, like a detachable micro sensor head with the lens mount of the front out of sight, or custom replaceable lens that nearly reaches the back.


Isn’t that the back of the camera we are looking at? The ripps are on a EVF maybe?
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 2:41 pm

The thing above them looks like a popup flash (not saying it is) but it seems to come out over it.
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 2:49 pm

----->>BLACKMAGIC POCKET CINEMA CAMERA 4K.
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 3:34 pm

Isn’t that the back of the camera we are looking at? The ripps are on a EVF maybe?


The more I look at it, I think you're right. It's too high up on the camera body to be a fixed lens / barrel, and would make more sense that they are teasing a EVF, something that really would make it more of a pocket camera.
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Just announced...
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 9:44 pm

I have the feeling for a Micro studio camera 4K60p. Now the Pocket camera becomes a 4K model.. The Ursa Broadcast can do 4K60P i'm feeling this will come to the Micro studio camera too..To lift this camera into the 12G-sdi setup. To make full 4K overview shots or put them to a PanTilt head and have a Full 4K Pan Tilt camera.. :)
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PostSat Apr 07, 2018 9:56 pm

William Allum wrote:
Isn’t that the back of the camera we are looking at? The ripps are on a EVF maybe?


The more I look at it, I think you're right. It's too high up on the camera body to be a fixed lens / barrel, and would make more sense that they are teasing a EVF, something that really would make it more of a pocket camera.


That thing sticking out still looks wrong. Those ribs look flattened out on the sides. I think you going love what if might be. What I was suggesting years ago was a modular mini with a pocket holder handle sort of thing. We'll see.
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 2:31 am

This is another pic I found floating around reddit.

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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 2:43 am

OK, if it's going to be that form factor, I could use it on my next mountain doco through Taiwan and Japan but I'll want it to be fully rain/dust proof and include GPS geotagging! :lol:
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 3:10 am

OK I'm going to say this is a rushed internet fake. Not because of the camera but because of the lettering used in the image.
My degree is in "Marketing" and just like seasoned filmmakers here on this forum notice subtle cues in a film or video, I find myself noticing the cues in advertising images and literature.

BMD is very conscience of their marketing material. They follow rules of thirds along with other print standards with everything they produce, even their web presentations and slides.
If this does happen to be a splash page/slide for their web presentation on Monday it is very out of characteristic for BMD. This image's lettering is all center spaced, (no one in the marketing world does this through the entire image, let alone leave so much dead space) and I've never seen them split the name of a product with two lines, like "Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K" is spaced here in the "suspect" image.

Just my two cents, but I could be wrong and this was a rushed web slide show shot. It looks really unprofessional if it is though.
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Timothy Cook wrote:OK I'm going to say this is a rushed internet fake. Not because of the camera but because of the lettering used in the image.
My degree is in "Marketing" and just like seasoned filmmakers here on this forum notice subtle cues in a film or video, I find myself noticing the cues in advertising images and literature.

BMD is very conscience of their marketing material. They follow rules of thirds along with other print standards with everything they produce, even their web presentations and slides.
If this does happen to be a splash page/slide for their web presentation on Monday it is very out of characteristic for BMD. This image's lettering is all center spaced, (no one in the marketing world does this through the entire image, let alone leave so much dead space) and I've never seen them split the name of a product with two lines, like "Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K" is spaced here in the "suspect" image.

Just my two cents, but I could be wrong and this was a rushed web slide show shot. It looks really unprofessional if it is though.

I don't know. Looks like one of their boxes to me.
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 3:29 am

Timothy Cook wrote:OK I'm going to say this is a rushed internet fake. Not because of the camera but because of the lettering used in the image.
My degree is in "Marketing" and just like seasoned filmmakers here on this forum notice subtle cues in a film or video, I find myself noticing the cues in advertising images and literature.

BMD is very conscience of their marketing material. They follow rules of thirds along with other print standards with everything they produce, even their web presentations and slides.
If this does happen to be a splash page/slide for their web presentation on Monday it is very out of characteristic for BMD. This image's lettering is all center spaced, (no one in the marketing world does this through the entire image, let alone leave so much dead space) and I've never seen them split the name of a product with two lines, like "Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K" is spaced here in the "suspect" image.

Just my two cents, but I could be wrong and this was a rushed web slide show shot. It looks really unprofessional if it is though.


I'm no marketer, but I'm having a hard time seeing how this camera is the same as the other bmd images.
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 3:30 am

Clayton Von Isaacs wrote:I don't know. Looks like one of their boxes to me.


Yeah, I will give you that. I does look similar to their pricing boxes in use on the web page, but because those are on the same page and next to several other cameras (large and small boxes highlighting premium product). If you click on one of those boxes... the page that is dedicated to one product at that point looks very very different.

Edit: I don't know, something looks off, but it could have been rushed.
Even in their pricing boxes they don't split the phrase "Cinema Camera" and start the entire description with "Blackmagic Design".

Just feels off. :P
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 3:33 am

"Just announced, the AU-EVA1 Compact S35 and the VariCam LT cinema cameras will have support for their RAW data outputs in the new ProRes RAW recording codecs. Native support for ProRes RAW has been introduced in the latest edition of Final Cut Pro X, and Atomos has announced that its Shogun Inferno and Sumo monitor/recorders will record in the new format. In addition to internal recording formats, the EVA1 and VariCam LT can output RAW data for the greatest flexibility in post image adjustment. #EVA1". I guess ProRes RAW is going to be in a lot of cameras.
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 3:50 am

Just dissecting the photo here and don't take to much from it, because even if the photo it is real, BMD marketing team does such a good job with their website presentation and design that it's obvious that they know what they're doing.

INMHo I would have thought they would have lead with "Pocket Cinema Camera 4K" , with no breaks covering two-thirds of the page in length, followed by the camera's image: centered, and the BMD logo offset lower right or left.
I mean look at their billboards and windows displays...always topnotch and could compete with any of the larger companies advertising in Time Square. But if this (the suspect fake photo) is a hanging banner or large projected image greeting thousands of guest at NAB this week... well someone needs a little more practice. :P
If this just one slide out of many for Monday's presentation, we'll it's more understandable, but still BMD is always better than this.

But, I do agree it looks similar to the website's "small" pricing boxes.
Funny, no price on the current image and tons of dead space.
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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 4:57 am

Clayton Von Isaacs wrote:... I guess ProRes RAW is going to be in a lot of cameras.

This interview with Jeromy Young from Atomos recorded at NAB was published 24 hours ago:
https://www.redsharknews.com/production ... -raw-video
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Timothy Cook wrote:Just dissecting the photo here and don't take to much from it, because even if the photo it is real, BMD marketing team does such a good job with their website presentation and design that it's obvious that they know what they're doing.

INMHo I would have thought they would have lead with "Pocket Cinema Camera 4K" , with no breaks covering two-thirds of the page in length, followed by the camera's image: centered, and the BMD logo offset lower right or left.
I mean look at their billboards and windows displays...always topnotch and could compete with any of the larger companies advertising in Time Square. But if this (the suspect fake photo) is a hanging banner or large projected image greeting thousands of guest at NAB this week... well someone needs a little more practice. :P
If this just one slide out of many for Monday's presentation, we'll it's more understandable, but still BMD is always better than this.

But, I do agree it looks similar to the website's "small" pricing boxes.
Funny, no price on the current image and tons of dead space.

I would say instead of the billboard look at the wording on the boxes of previous cameras. Also they may be changing how the boxes look this year.
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I think it would be awesome if Blackmagic Design announced a new supercomputer called the HAL 9000 in honor of the 50th Anniversary for 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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Feels eerily like the quiet before the storm here. In about 16 hours the joint will be hoppin’ when the main event is about to begin.


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rick.lang wrote:Feels eerily like the quiet before the storm here. In about 16 hours the joint will be hoppin’ when the main event is about to begin.

Tropical Storm Adobe is about to be swallowed by Hurricane Blackmagic Design! Hahahaha. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'll do you one better...
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timbutt2 wrote:
rick.lang wrote:Feels eerily like the quiet before the storm here. In about 16 hours the joint will be hoppin’ when the main event is about to begin.

Tropical Storm Adobe is about to be swallowed by Hurricane Blackmagic Design! Hahahaha. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Woohoo! Hopefully this will mean an end to the crappy conforms from Premiere for good!

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Rakesh Malik wrote:I'll do you one better...

NICE!!! I may not be able to sleep tonight I have so much excitement. Only about 15 hours to go till the announcements!
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timbutt2 wrote:NICE!!! I may not be able to sleep tonight I have so much excitement. Only about 15 hours to go till the announcements!


Sleep? Wazzat? :)
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Hmm, after working for several years now with Resolve at full 12G SDI, with improved Titles and some Compositing integration, I might even be tempted to buy a License! Good things come to those that wait...
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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 6:39 am

Hey watzuuuuup with that lazyness. Its already 8:30 here in the Netherlands. Do i have to still wait another 9 hours for you lazy americans to wakeup and do the announcement. You are so behind always. Come ooooooon.
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Glenn Venghaus wrote:Hey watzuuuuup with that lazyness. Its already 8:30 here in the Netherlands. Do i have to still wait another 9 hours for you lazy americans to wakeup and do the announcement. You are so behind always. Come ooooooon.

Haha, I wouldn't call the Australians lazy considering normally they are ahead of time from the Netherlands. Normally they're a full day ahead of the United States. So this Monday is like a Tuesday for them. And, like on a Tuesday with Buffy the Vampire Slayer they're going to slay some competition with their announcements.

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timbutt2 wrote:So this Monday is like a Tuesday for them.


Ughhhhhh....tell me about it! It's painful!
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Anyone knows if there is a place we can watch some kind of livestream? BMD did not announce a livestream.. But maybe someone attending that does a live Facebook or something? :)
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I’m assuming it will be linked off their main webpage a few minutes before the streaming begins (or perhaps in the Announcements section of the forum).

There is this link on the Support webpage but so far it just goes to Twitter and points to the BMD homepage.

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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 4:01 pm

Yeah well.. I thoughed it should be already on the half hour ago.. But i forgot to correct for Summer/Winter Time correction.. We do we still have that in europe.. Ughhh :roll:
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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 4:04 pm

Yes, we are on Daylight Savings Time here in Canada and the US. So the presentation starts at 9:30 am PDT or 8:30 am PST.


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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 4:08 pm

The portal to the live presentation is now open! You can get to it from BMD homepage


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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 4:33 pm

OK, it is 0932, so now it is late getting started. All will be revealed shortly :!:
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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 4:47 pm

Looks like the live stream is filmed in interlace and got a bad de-interlacing before streaming?
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audio just dropped out
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Sound gone..

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Am I am the only one where the audio of the live stream just got muted?
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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 4:53 pm

nope and it sucks as they are shoeing the good stuff
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