Camera Shipping Update: 11/15

KNOK KNOK ..BMD !!!

ANYBODY IN THERE ??
HUH ....NOBODY ?
WHERE IS EVERYONE ???

Rumors have it production was stopped again!!!! this sucksss

My Christmas wish: apple buys Black Magic Design and have things fixed. I've never heard of apple delaying anything, or having problems with production...for over 6 months

They've just never told you and they probably know by now not to announce until they are ready to ship.

My Christmas wish: apple buys Black Magic Design and have things fixed. I've never heard of apple delaying anything, or having problems with production...for over 6 months

Rumors have it production was stopped again!!!! this sucksss

what rumor? where you read this?

My Christmas wish: apple buys Black Magic Design and have things fixed. I've never heard of apple delaying anything, or having problems with production...for over 6 months

What about the white iPhone 4? it was delayed for problems in production...Just saying

The newest Macbook Retinas had faulty screens depending on when you got them. They suffered from burn in, and Apple (mega corp here) didn't acknowledge it publicly at ALL. After so many complaints and returned laptops, they 'quietly' changed their panel supplier and most of the newest shipments are fine.

I'm a pretty broke/moneyless shooter, I had finally been able to grab a macbook retina in preparation for this camera and when I started reading Apple's own forums about the issue? Pretty terrifying!

Were you able to get a MacBook Pro with Retina screen that is issue free in the end? Did you have to return it several times to get a Samsung manufactured one? As far as I know, the issue still isn't resolved... Apple's quality control has gone downhill over the past few years. I had 3 replacements, 2 had Image Retention issues (LG manufactured screens) and the last one didn't (Samsung screen), but the bottom of the screen looked piss-yellow. I have since returned it and ordered a classic MacBook Pro with HiRes AntiGlare screen, however this display has some serious backlight issues, visible in the Photoshop and Lightroom interface (because it's grey), so that's a deal breaker for me. I'm thinking about returning it within Apple's holiday returns period (till 7th January 2013) and trying my luck with a Retina MacBook Pro again. After all, that's the product I actually wanted. The screen issues are just so frustrating considering the Retina display is the whole selling point of that model

If the Mac Mini didn't only have an Intel HD 4000 graphics chip, I'd probably get a maxed out Mac Mini + self-calibrating 27" Eizo screen. Yes, it would be a desktop Mac, but a rather portable one if you keep one screen at home and one at work. The 2012 MacMini (maxed out) reaches over 12000 in GeekBench. I doubt the integrated graphics would be powerful enough for (light) Resolve usage though (?) Would Resolve even run on that?

this is really exausting....It's inadmissible not to have an update. Just to show they are here and listening. This is s---. BMD has lost all of my trust. And the thing I most hate is that people like Bloom, Laforet, Wiegärtner, etc, were the first to get a camera. A camera they don't even respect and they don't even use, and they have at their offices shooting dust. They get it for free and we have to be here waiting and waiting. All this situation is disrespectful to costumers.

Jesus

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its very simple, if you decide to go the "we will keep our customers informed route"
they you need to deliver, or you will run the risk of loosing out on trust.

Red went underground.

As for the present update delay, it can only mean one thing: there have been more problems.

I do feel sorry for the BM people, this must be such a nightmare for them too.

Just spoke with a rep at Hotrod-cameras, the company I preordered with back in June. The kind gentlemen on the phone told me that they spoke with BMD yesterday and more shipments will be here by the 1st of the year. Not sure I believe it. Nothing against Hotrod, they've been awesome with keeping me updated with as much as they know. Which probably is as much as I know lol. I love the idea of the BMC but I have to make a decision soon on if/when to jump ship if the status we all are in doesn't change soon. After all there is other camera's out there that will at least get the job done!

Just spoke with a rep at Hotrod-cameras, the company I preordered with back in June. The kind gentlemen on the phone told me that they spoke with BMD yesterday and more shipments will be here by the 1st of the year. Not sure I believe it. Nothing against Hotrod, they've been awesome with keeping me updated with as much as they know. Which probably is as much as I know lol. I love the idea of the BMC but I have to make a decision soon on if/when to jump ship if the status we all are in doesn't change soon. After all there is other camera's out there that will at least get the job done!

I really hope BMD has had positive reason not to spend time writing updates. If they are currently hard at work getting cameras ready to be shipped in early January, I'll be very happy. That is provided the cameras will ship in masses at that point. A confirmation or any sign of life would be nice though...

Still waiting for Truth...

Last BlackMagic info:

Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:34 am: It's coming, guys! I can feel it!

Oh boy, was I wrong.

I received my Switronix PB70-BMCC external battery from CVP today, so now I have an external battery for my non-existant camera

same!

I received my Switronix PB70-BMCC external battery from CVP today, so now I have an external battery for my non-existant camera

same!

Did you order from CVP as well?

I just spoke to my distributor today in Melbourne where this thing is designed and built, and where I am first on the list (I ordered the day it was announced at NAB). I was told they had an update this morning not to expect a camera until Feb next year. Hmm, am starting to allow myself to get peeved, and I'm usually pretty patient with RED setting the bar pretty low in terms of over promise, under deliver. I have sympathy for Grant and the team, I bet they are as desperate as anyone for the cameras to get out the door and get paid for the last 18 months of work on the thing. I just hope that with the team still working in the software side we get a camera (eventually) that is improved on from the first limited 'Beta' release.

February 2013!! Geez.

I really do hope that isn't true I need mine in/within January...

I just spoke to my distributor today in Melbourne where this thing is designed and built, and where I am first on the list (I ordered the day it was announced at NAB). I was told they had an update this morning not to expect a camera until Feb next year. Hmm, am starting to allow myself to get peeved, and I'm usually pretty patient with RED setting the bar pretty low in terms of over promise, under deliver. I have sympathy for Grant and the team, I bet they are as desperate as anyone for the cameras to get out the door and get paid for the last 18 months of work on the thing. I just hope that with the team still working in the software side we get a camera (eventually) that is improved on from the first limited 'Beta' release.

February 2013!! Geez.

Sound about right. BMD may be a big fish in the small pond of video editing business but in the wider world of camera manufacture it is a small time company. They are experimental with the aim of making no more than a few hundred units and no intention of producing thousands, that is beyond their capacity. I've not known many if any companies based in Australia and purely Australian owned that mass produce electronic gadgets. I'm sure they are hoping customers would give up waiting and cancel their orders so it is hardly a surprise why updates are scarce and the way we are treated.

Patience is a virtue.

Patience is a virtue.

A lot of our buckets of patience dried up a while ago.

The best advise I can give anyone would be for them to create something or help someone while they're waiting.

Any significant update, whether that be from BD or supply bodies, will be emailed to all concerned.

I smell an Ikonoskop somewhere!! oh wait, my pocket is out of cash

!!!PLEASE, TALK TO US!!!

We won't be getting any updates until something actually starts to happen with production. BM have probably been delivered a batch of sensors that have passed QC at the supplier, but are still failing at BM, meaning they are back to the drawing board to solve the problem with the glass bonding issue. This means that without an end in sight as to why this is happening, having little option other than to stick with their supplier due to cost and timeframe limitations, we aren't going to see an update for a while yet.

I do sympathise with them - things going wrong when people are barking at you for results is horrible. They are VERY limited with what they can actually tell us - the wrong update could cause lots of order cancellations, but something is better than nothing. We are going RED, but will still get a BM at some point when they are released.

I hope all BM staff manage to have a nice Christmas - best of luck and seasonal wishes to you all.

We won't be getting any updates until something actually starts to happen with production. BM have probably been delivered a batch of sensors that have passed QC at the supplier, but are still failing at BM, meaning they are back to the drawing board to solve the problem with the glass bonding issue. This means that without an end in sight as to why this is happening, having little option other than to stick with their supplier due to cost and timeframe limitations, we aren't going to see an update for a while yet.

I do sympathise with them - things going wrong when people are barking at you for results is horrible. They are VERY limited with what they can actually tell us - the wrong update could cause lots of order cancellations, but something is better than nothing. We are going RED, but will still get a BM at some point when they are released.

I hope all BM staff manage to have a nice Christmas - best of luck and seasonal wishes to you all.

That might be true, but it's all speculation, and there is no good reason why BMD can't say this publicly given what they've said before. In any case that shouldn't be the case as Grant said BM's engineers had helped the supplier set up the new QC process.

Something is seriously wrong. The MFT is due for release now - not even a whisper to suggest what is going on with that. I notice that Christine hasn't said anything as of late - last I saw she was trying to get an update from Australia. What is clear is that for whatever reason, Grant has asked BM's employees to keep hush for the time being. Read into that what you will.

Christine? just say hi!

Christine? just say hi!

Hi! I'm still here. Still trying to get an update for you.

Christine? just say hi!

Hi! I'm still here. Still trying to get an update for you.

In Christine we trust.

We won't be getting any updates until something actually starts to happen with production. BM have probably been delivered a batch of sensors that have passed QC at the supplier, but are still failing at BM, meaning they are back to the drawing board to solve the problem with the glass bonding issue. This means that without an end in sight as to why this is happening, having little option other than to stick with their supplier due to cost and timeframe limitations, we aren't going to see an update for a while yet.

I do sympathise with them - things going wrong when people are barking at you for results is horrible. They are VERY limited with what they can actually tell us - the wrong update could cause lots of order cancellations, but something is better than nothing. We are going RED, but will still get a BM at some point when they are released.

I hope all BM staff manage to have a nice Christmas - best of luck and seasonal wishes to you all.

That might be true, but it's all speculation, and there is no good reason why BMD can't say this publicly given what they've said before. In any case that shouldn't be the case as Grant said BM's engineers had helped the supplier set up the new QC process.

Something is seriously wrong. The MFT is due for release now - not even a whisper to suggest what is going on with that. I notice that Christine hasn't said anything as of late - last I saw she was trying to get an update from Australia. What is clear is that for whatever reason, Grant has asked BM's employees to keep hush for the time being. Read into that what you will.

An utterly incredible sequence of events. Just as we were about to purchase a battle tested RED kit and cancel our oldest remaining order, I've just been informed that one camera has been allocated to our reseller and as we are first in the queue we can have it if we want. We ordered in late April. The camera should be with us before the end of the week! Speechless is not the word! I will be holding my breath until Friday's UPS delivery arrives however.....!

YES SHE CAN

Christine thanks, that is calming in a way... again thanks

An utterly incredible sequence of events. Just as we were about to purchase a battle tested RED kit and cancel our oldest remaining order, I've just been informed that one camera has been allocated to our reseller and as we are first in the queue we can have it if we want. We ordered in late April. The camera should be with us before the end of the week! Speechless is not the word! I will be holding my breath until Friday's UPS delivery arrives however.....!

Would you mind telling us who was your reseller and what date you ordered?

Would it be cool if when anybody gets a camera we get
1- the date the camera is delivered and
2 - the date of the pre-order.

that way we can know more about how long our personal wait might be...

An utterly incredible sequence of events. Just as we were about to purchase a battle tested RED kit and cancel our oldest remaining order, I've just been informed that one camera has been allocated to our reseller and as we are first in the queue we can have it if we want. We ordered in late April. The camera should be with us before the end of the week! Speechless is not the word! I will be holding my breath until Friday's UPS delivery arrives however.....!

Would you mind telling us who was your reseller and what date you ordered?

3DBroadcast sales and we ordered and paid on either the 29th or 30th of April (can't exactly remember until I start digging out our online payment receipts etc.)

We are going to get the camera and shoot some green screen footage demos early next week which I will happily post online ASAP. Once we have done this we are going to purchase the EVF, battery kits and any other bits we need and offer it for hire. I'll do it as cheaply as possible for UK people on the BM forums who have orders.

An utterly incredible sequence of events. Just as we were about to purchase a battle tested RED kit and cancel our oldest remaining order, I've just been informed that one camera has been allocated to our reseller and as we are first in the queue we can have it if we want. We ordered in late April. The camera should be with us before the end of the week! Speechless is not the word! I will be holding my breath until Friday's UPS delivery arrives however.....!

Would you mind telling us who was your reseller and what date you ordered?

3DBroadcast sales and we ordered and paid on either the 29th or 30th of April (can't exactly remember until I start digging out our online payment receipts etc.)

We are going to get the camera and shoot some green screen footage demos early next week which I will happily post online ASAP. Once we have done this we are going to purchase the EVF, battery kits and any other bits we need and offer it for hire. I'll do it as cheaply as possible for UK people on the BM forums who have orders.

Thank you, and I look forward to seeing your footage! Congrats! In hindsight I should have ordered from a less well known dealer, as I ordered earlier than that data and am very much down a long list with my reseller :-/

In all honesty, I can only say VERY positive things about 3DBroadcast sales. We could have gone with CVP or calumet, but we took the plunge to go with a smaller dealer - we thought that smaller dealers only having to get 2-3 cameras delivered before our order was fulfilled was better than ordering with someone who had hundreds.

I'm getting excited, but I have to keep tempering that with worst case scenario (UPS van can't get to studio because of snow, truck highjacked, huge elaborate hoax played by one of my friends, wild animals attack delivery driver as he steps out of van etc).

I'm sure it's been worth the wait.

In all honesty, I can only say VERY positive things about 3DBroadcast sales. We could have gone with CVP or calumet, but we took the plunge to go with a smaller dealer - we thought that smaller dealers only having to get 2-3 cameras delivered before our order was fulfilled was better than ordering with someone who had hundreds.

I'm getting excited, but I have to keep tempering that with worst case scenario (UPS van can't get to studio because of snow, truck highjacked, huge elaborate hoax played by one of my friends, wild animals attack delivery driver as he steps out of van etc).

I'm sure it's been worth the wait.

Do you guys do rental I will need a BMCC in February. If I don't get my camera by then from CVP, I'll need to find a London (or at least UK based) place to rent the camera...

When we got a update this must be very good news
Grant can't tell the same story for the third time nobody will believe it , he knows that.
I wouldn't do it , telling the same story about the problems with the sensor that will sound like a joke..
I will wait to get better news so does Grant.....

No update means still no good news..and problems are in progress

I'm getting excited, but I have to keep tempering that with worst case scenario (UPS van can't get to studio because of snow, truck highjacked, huge elaborate hoax played by one of my friends, wild animals attack delivery driver as he steps out of van etc).

Hehe.. grats Tom! Come visit the Christmas Market over here and bring your camera
Then we drink hot whine punch until you totally forget about the camera and....

I'm getting excited, but I have to keep tempering that with worst case scenario (UPS van can't get to studio because of snow, truck highjacked, huge elaborate hoax played by one of my friends, wild animals attack delivery driver as he steps out of van etc).

Hehe.. grats Tom! Come visit the Christmas Market over here and bring your camera
Then we drink hot whine punch until you totally forget about the camera and....

Ha-I am thinking of coming over at some point in the next few months. I'll drop you a line if I do

When we got a update this must be very good news
Grant can't tell the same story for the third time nobody will believe it , he knows that.
I wouldn't do it , telling the same story about the problems with the sensor that will sound like a joke..
I will wait to get better news so does Grant.....

No update means still no good news..and problems are in progress

SO Christine...
Still reading the forum...and no news since 3 weeks...
I think that Grant went on vacation

Tom I could go pick it up for you as I live and work only 5 mins away from them;)

Nice review

I'm not suggesting they abandon the current camera, but at some point they have to have a plan b.

Hi Costa! You got name checked in the Hitler reacts to BMCC delays video

Also Tom I would be interested in a hire at some point assuming the mft version doesn't start shipping very soon....

Christine? just say hi!

Hi! I'm still here. Still trying to get an update for you.

What a crock! You are "trying to get an update." Really?

If you're going to vent frustration, don't do it toward her. She's obviously stuck between a rock and a really crappy place. Berating her is as pointless as getting mad at the wind.