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Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostFri Jan 17, 2020 10:27 pm

This might have been asked before so don't flame me for asking since I couldn't find anything on it. If so, just direct me to the post.

Is it possible to use a power charger/brick to power up a BMPCC 4K/6K?
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostFri Jan 17, 2020 11:38 pm

Yes if output correct voltage.
There is power bank for notebook that output 12-20v, but I don’t know how many are good deal.
A nfp970+ adapter give you power and more ability to change battery at similar cost, but nfp970 are more common and easier to interchange.


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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSat Jan 18, 2020 12:49 am

Similar query to Ellory’s. I sometimes use a Mophie PowerStation PD XL (10,050mAh, USB-C out) to power a MixPre-3 audio recorder. It weighs 200g/7oz and fits in a coat pocket. I’d like to identify something reasonably/similarly portable that could power a Pocket 4K for a couple of hours, which as I understand it requires input to the Weipu SF610/S2 port.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSat Jan 18, 2020 5:34 am

The Pocket Camera manual gives some values for power draw under different conditions, so make sure your substitute supply can provide that.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSat Jan 18, 2020 5:37 am

robedge wrote:Similar query to Ellory’s. I sometimes use a Mophie PowerStation PD XL (10,050mAh, USB-C out) to power a MixPre-3 audio recorder. It weighs 200g/7oz and fits in a coat pocket. I’d like to identify something reasonably/similarly portable that could power a Pocket 4K for a couple of hours, which as I understand it requires input to the Weipu SF610/S2 port.


I do the same that's why I'm interested for the 6K. It's the voltage output and the cabling that's probably not available.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSat Jan 18, 2020 5:50 am

I am using the Talentcell PowerBank brand of external power units. The 12v models and so far I am very pleased feeding the DC in.. My PCC4K with T5 drive and powered lens runs fine for a couple of hours. Cinegear pro sells a cable with the barrel connector to the powerbank and the other end weipu to the camera. These powerbank are very inexpensive and i purchased three of them. I attached the battery to my cage using a kondor blue quick disconnect device one half epoxied to the battery. Also sold on Amazon.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSat Jan 18, 2020 6:48 am

Excellent Mike. I'm not an electronics person. Do you think what you're using will work with the P6K as well?

Can you share links to the parts you mentioned? Thanks!
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Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSat Jan 18, 2020 9:09 am

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First time I bought this for nfp970, cheap and fragile. All plastic. Work fine if you want to punt on your belt. Nfp970give you since 2h of works (Pocket4k 22w/h, Pocket6k 25w/h, every battery 45w since).

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Second time I bought that tilta adapter, a bit expansive (few dollars more) but all metal, screw to put on cage and for tilta cage had antirotation pin. I’m happy with this solution, that give me 2 hours of work for every nfp970 that I have. I had 21 of that be cause are the same that I use for my led panel.

It’s standard, it’s battery easy to find, work fine for that camera but also for monitors, led panels and more. And I had to charge with other battery, no another charger, another kind of battery to charge.


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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSun Jan 19, 2020 6:34 am

This is the 12 volt power bank that i use and like.
TalentCell Rechargeable 12V... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7Z9Z1N?re ... b_ap_share
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSun Jan 19, 2020 7:59 am

Thanks Gentleman. On the Tilta, I think the 12v DC output will work on the BMP6K.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSun Jan 19, 2020 8:01 am

MikeMeagher wrote:This is the 12 volt power bank that i use and like.
TalentCell Rechargeable 12V... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7Z9Z1N?re ... b_ap_share

So each power bank last you 2 hours? For $25, that's pretty sweet.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostSun Jan 19, 2020 5:09 pm

The approach of using NPF batteries externally to the Pocket 4K is attractive. One issue is whether an adapter will work with the camera's LP-E6 internal battery left in the camera. The camera manual recommends removing it when using a custom external power source. It gives the power consumption of the Pocket 4K at 22W when NOT charging the battery and 30W when charging the battery. The AC adapter has a current rating on it of 2.5A at 12V which is consistent with the 30W value.

But none of the adapters that I have researched have a stated spec for current. So if you have in mind that you'll leave the internal battery to keep the camera powered while you swap the external battery, when you connect the fresh battery the power consumption would be 30W for a few minutes while the internal battery tops off.

Has anyone successfully used an external battery adapter like this, with the internal battery left in?
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostMon Jan 20, 2020 5:16 am

Ellory Yu wrote:
MikeMeagher wrote:This is the 12 volt power bank that i use and like.
TalentCell Rechargeable 12V... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7Z9Z1N?re ... b_ap_share

So each power bank last you 2 hours? For $25, that's pretty sweet.


At least 90 minutes.. to 2 ish hours..depends on if i am recording a lot or not. Yes for $25 I get a lot more battery life stability than I do using the internal battery alone. And for the price i have 3 of these and most afternoons of filming only use 1 or 2 banks. Very handy units for the price. I have one of their larger amp units that i mount to my 15mm rods too. This system is way less expensive than a V mount system.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostWed Jan 22, 2020 10:22 pm

Michael_Andreas wrote:
Has anyone successfully used an external battery adapter like this, with the internal battery left in?


Me from when pocket4k was out, work fine, I’m sure that I never had camera power down for low battery, also if nfp give me 90 minutes instead of 2 hours, who care of it? I have a bunch of batteries for led panel, but never I saw camera shutdown for low battery. Sureness must be a mantra for every filmaker/ operator.
Never I had corrupted disk or clip damaged from power down of camera.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostWed Jan 22, 2020 11:37 pm

My concern is whether the external power supply will handle the additional load that will be present when the fresh battery is inserted, not whether the camera will shut off.

The additional load I'm referring to is recharging the internal battery due to the charge lost while the battery is being swapped. The power supply provided by BMD with the Pocket 4K is rated for a load current of 2.5A, consistent with the statement in the manual that the camera requires 30W when charging the internal battery. If the external supply is rated only for 24W then it will be overstressed until the internal battery is topped off.
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Re: Using a power brick to power BMPCC

PostFri Jan 24, 2020 12:37 am

When using the Powerbank that i referenced prior, I also leave a Canon battery in the camera.
It works fine for me. No issues. The battery will
get charged from the banks DC in feed..when the camera is powered off.
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