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Hi,

This is kind of a ''simple'' question.

Is the Pocket Camera VIRTUALLY the same as the BMCC -- or is it EXACTLY the same, only in a smaller package??

Or is it a totally different camera?

Different storage media, different form factor, max resolution, different sensor manufacturer (?), different included software (Resolve&Scope vs ResolveLite), touch screen vs buttons..

They're clearly related -- they even share the same manual -- but I'd say they're not virtually or exactly the same.

So is one camera clearly better than the other in terms of performance??

i think this is asking the wrong question. ok, i know that there is a vast ocean of difference between someone who wants a DSLR and a Blackmagic Cinema Camera. they have different needs and different purposes. while the difference isn't as big, its still a similar situation here. its hard to make this an apples to apples comparison, when they were made so different from each other

Based on the specs alone, I would say that the pocket is the more versatile design: smaller, lighter, and more ergonomic, the micro 4/3 lens mount can accommodate far more lenses without sacrifice, it has a removable battery, and can run off of highly ubiquitous and cheap SD memory cards(granted only recommended to run the very fastest, but still, cheaper and easier to carry than an SSD). However, the BMCC2.5K is the more capable video camera, the SSD can hold far more of that RAW footage than even the biggest SD cards, the obvious increase in resolution is a clear advantage in post, it has a more robust included suite of post software, and is a heftier camera which will always make potential clients happier. Now, without a good number of people having access to the Pocket in real world situations, all of this debate has a big fat caveat with it, the heating issue for instance could prove to be a big problem, IIRC the Cinema 2.5K has a built in fan to deal with that while the Pocket Cinema does not, this may prove to be very problematic, but then again, the Pocket camera may not have a fan included in the design simply because it is not required. We'll see.

Whirled_Peas wrote:... all of this debate has a big fat caveat with it, the heating issue for instance could prove to be a big problem, IIRC the Cinema 2.5K has a built in fan to deal with that while the Pocket Cinema does not, this may prove to be very problematic, but then again, the Pocket camera may not have a fan included in the design simply because it is not required. We'll see.

So you think BMD's engineers didn't consider this when they designed the BMPCC pocket cam from the ground up to be a RAW & ProRes capable cinema camera, unlike older DSLRs which weren't initially designed to record video full-time?

Really?

Yes, we'll see, but I doubt this needs to be a point of concern, especially based on zero evidence.

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Peter J. DeCrescenzo wrote:

Whirled_Peas wrote:... all of this debate has a big fat caveat with it, the heating issue for instance could prove to be a big problem, IIRC the Cinema 2.5K has a built in fan to deal with that while the Pocket Cinema does not, this may prove to be very problematic, but then again, the Pocket camera may not have a fan included in the design simply because it is not required. We'll see.

So you think BMD's engineers didn't consider this when they designed the BMPCC pocket cam from the ground up to be a RAW & ProRes capable cinema camera, unlike older DSLRs which weren't initially designed to record video full-time?

Really?

Yes, we'll see, but I doubt this needs to be a point of concern, especially based on zero evidence.

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I'm not trying to be a Negative Nancy here(I mean I've preordered one of the BMPCCs myself for chrissakes), but there is a big difference between how a camera performs in a lab and how it performs in the real world. My main reason for skepticism is that the camera offers so much on paper and at the price tag it has, it seems almost too good to be true. I just think that when considering getting a camera that lacks the wealth of real world "experience" that everything out on the market has, one should keep this issue in mind.

BMCC requires a stronger computer with more storage for post production than BMPCC?

the real question is, since the BMPCC has shipped, when will we see reviews and comparisons???